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#169386 - 03/15/09 04:53 PM Another Geocaching question...
samhain Offline
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Question for those who do geocaching (for fun, survival, or other wise).

Which coordinate system do you prefer. Long/Lat or UTM?

I'm learning as I go and I like the familiarity of the Long/Lat coordinates (tracking hurricanes all my life), but the UTM use of meters (at least from my very limited reading so far) seems simpler to me...

Guidance needed from the more experienced...

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#169388 - 03/15/09 05:35 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: samhain]
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Well, i am learning constantly on lat/long. I grew up with MGRS and really glad the trend is going that direction.

MGRS= Military Grid Reference System
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#169399 - 03/15/09 07:43 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: samhain]
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Most cache descriptions and coordinates for mystery caches or multi caches use long/lat. Sometimes coordinates have to be entered during the hunt. So itīs easier to use it instead of switching between the systems as required.
Also make sure to use the proper map datum (WGS 84).
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#169403 - 03/15/09 08:38 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: comms]
samhain Offline
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Originally Posted By: comms
Well, i am learning constantly on lat/long. I grew up with MGRS and really glad the trend is going that direction.

MGRS= Military Grid Reference System


Thanks comms,

I'm unfamiliar with MGRS. I am using the USGS topo maps from the local blueprint supply store.

Is there a way to correlate MGRS with the topo's? (may be a dumb question but that's how I learn - by asking dumb questions).
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#169478 - 03/16/09 03:58 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: samhain]
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Oh absolutely Samhain. You need a protractor for a map. Its a clear plastic square with several 90* angles inside it, just make sure to find one that corresponds with your map (ie 1:24,000, 1:50,000, etc). There is usually several angles on the protractor.

Many base type compasses have these on them already.

Quick Guide to UTM/MGRS

Basically when you look at a map, its divided into boxes based on the size of your map ( for example 1:24,000). Regardless of the map size a protractor breaks each box into smaller box 10x10. 100 invisible boxes within the map box.

Locate where you want to go on the map and then find the lower left hand corner of the box. You always read right and up. Place the angled corner of the protractor on that SW box corner and slide it to the right until the N/S edge of the protractor meets the spot you want.

Now along the bottom, you will have a number on the protractor that sits on the SW corner and a number sitting on your destination.

For example, if your trying to coordinate a tower dead center of the map box your protractor would read 5 ticks east, 5 ticks north.

All things map related are confusing to read the first time. Which is why I continue to have issues with Lat/Long, myself. Have fun.
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#169481 - 03/16/09 04:21 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: samhain]
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In the UK I use the Ordnance Survey National Grid for geocaching, same as for everything else.
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#169506 - 03/16/09 08:19 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: Brangdon]
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Always...always make sure you know what grid system and datum you are using. An error can leave you lost and WAY off target.

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#169517 - 03/16/09 09:45 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: comms]
samhain Offline
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good deal.

thanks for the info!

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#169561 - 03/17/09 03:26 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: samhain]
KenK Offline
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Considering the thread's title references geocaching ...

Geocaching.com uses lat/long of the form DDD MM.MMM , so for geocaching I'll usually go long with them. I've tried to standardize my lat/long work to that format.

When working with coordinates in the field - with USGS 7.5 minutes topo maps I much prefer to use UTM coordinates.

The grids and info at http://www.maptools.com are GREAT!!

For the last few years I've purchased topo maps from http://www.MyTopo.com because (1) they come pre-printed with UTM coordinate grids, (2) I can specify custom maps that likely span multiple 7.5 minute areas, (3) I can get them printed on waterproof 'paper', and (4) their web site is easy enough to use that even I can use it with great success.

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#169562 - 03/17/09 03:29 PM Re: Another Geocaching question... [Re: samhain]
Eugene Offline
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I signed up on the geocaching forum after the last thread. The one on groundspeak, the sign up takes you from the forum to the main site and says it will replicate your account to the forums but it never has, seems something is borked. Anyone able to PM a mod over there?

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