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| #169455 - 03/16/09 11:09 AM  Re: Compact hammock
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How does adding a hammock to the weight help him go ultralight?I'm not an orthodox ultralight hiker, I've just been experimenting a little streamlining all my gear down to bare essentials.  The idea behind getting a hammock is that I could make a much simpler shelter in the warm months (no need to build a lean-to). I might be able to get away with a lighter sleeping bag and no pad. If I don't have to build a shelter I might even feel confident enough to leave the axe behind. So I could definitely save some weight and more importantly, reduce the time and effort needed to prepare the camp site. |  
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| #169472 - 03/16/09 03:16 PM  Re: Compact hammock
[Re: BigToe] |  
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I've been tempted to get a Hennessy for years and insulation has always been a concern as I tend to sleep on the cold side.  Which model quilt do you use?  Also, do you use a pad?  I have a Big Agnus inflatable insulated pad (mummy) I would consider using that even if I didn't inflate it.  I would definately use it inflated if I would have to set up on the ground using my trekking poles (turns the hammock int a bivvy of sorts).  
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| #169475 - 03/16/09 03:34 PM  Re: Compact hammock
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I have heard good things about Hennessy. I think really (and this is just MHO) but Hennessy and Eagle Nest seem to be the industry leaders. 
 I think its sort of a Coke/Pepsi issue. Both have pretty strong packages for people to chose from.
 
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| #169479 - 03/16/09 04:04 PM  Re: Compact hammock
[Re: comms] |  
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HH makes an under pad for theirs. I have used it, but never in the colder months. The warmer months arent an issue. I plan on trying out just a normal CCF pad this spring, and see how comfy it is. As for the HH itself; this is a great product. A lot of people get these, then move on to other hammocks, mostly made by small manufacturers. But, with an HH, you can NOT go wrong. I also have a DD hammock, which is used soley in my jeep; its not near as comfortable, and I cannot seem to sleep flat on it. But, in a pinch, it beat sleeping on the ground. The HH however I sleep flat in, no need for a pillow even. The tarp it came with originally has been replaced, and I had some modifications done to it (mainly, had a zipper installed on one side, to make it a side entry system), but, these are asthetics only. I never had an issue with rain with the original fly; I just liked having additional room to cook, and to keep gear dry.
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| #169546 - 03/17/09 09:09 AM  Re: Compact hammock
[Re: oldsoldier] |  
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Tom_L wrote: 
 >The idea behind getting a hammock is that I could make a much >simpler shelter in the warm months (no need to build a lean->to). I might be able to get away with a lighter sleeping bag >and no pad.
 
 So a hammock is warmer than sleeping on the ground?
 
 The Sock
 
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| #169559 - 03/17/09 03:21 PM  Re: Compact hammock
[Re: TheSock] |  
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Warmer....I am not sure, Sock. I think the combination of a pad, sleeping bag and tent would provide more warmth than a hammock like my Eagle Nest Outfitter (ENO) just strung between two trees. The colder air would flow under you. I have slept in my ENO in a 40* bag, no pad under in 40* temps and been okay, while everyone else slept in a tent. 
 
 There are some draw backs to hammocks, namely finding to 'poles' to connect it too. I have got many a laugh from my friends on road trips trying to find a place to string my ENO up.
 
 I carry both a thin 3/4 pad and my ENO. If I can't string it up, I am not stuck sleeping on the ground without some padding.
 
 While I really like my ENO hammock I am a side sleeper. So occasionally its really hard for me to be comfortable and fall asleep on my back.
 
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| #169601 - 03/17/09 09:49 PM  Re: Compact hammock
[Re: comms] |  
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Hammocks themselves certainly arent warmer, per se, than a tent, at first glance. It comes down to the insulation underneath you-without some form of insulation, wind steals your heat. There ARE solutions to this; underblankets, proprietary solutions (such as the HH pad), or you can use a regular pad inside it (I have heard mixed results on this, but have no first hand experience yet). Also, its easier to use a quilt, blanket, or open a sleeping bag fully, in a hammock, than it is to squirm into a sleeping bag.  |  
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| #169616 - 03/18/09 12:36 AM  Re: Compact hammock
[Re: oldsoldier] |  
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I want one of these:  HERE |  
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| #169621 - 03/18/09 01:39 AM  Re: Compact hammock
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I promise you this,  If it gets cool at night, you will know about it faster in a hammock than in a tent.
 360 deg. insulation is a must, or one will awaken to cold biscuits in the morning.
 
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