Hi all.
This is my PROPOSED IDEAL Hip-pack Survival Kit. As it is simply a proposed kit, I won’t take offence to any criticism that forum members have.

The reason I put this kit up on the forum is so that it WILL be CRITISED.

Click on the link to see my:
First aid kit for hip pack
WOFT's PSK
WOFT's outdoor EDC

Hip-Pack Survival Kit
(Always carried with PSK)

SIGNALING GROUP
Star-flash 2” x 3” Signal mirror
Flares
Whistle

EMERGENCY DEVICES GROUP
Squirt P4
Wire saw (BCB ‘premium’/’commando’??)
Lighter
BCB lifeboat matches
Spark-lite tinder
Flint (magnesium bar? Swedish fire steel type? Blast match?)
‘Survival’ Candle
Suunto clipper (compass)

SHELTER and PERSONAL PROTECTION GROUP
Space Blanket
Survival bag

MEDICAL GROUP
FAK in an altoids-type tin. Presently being discussed on the forum here

WATER and FOOD GROUP
Esbit Stove
Esbit fuel
Potable Aqua
BCB compressed sponge
Fishing line
Assorted fishing hooks
Gaff
Trace wire
Split-shot sinkers
Swivels
Multi vitamins
Rations
1l Platypus-type bladder

MISCELLANEOUS / MULTI-PURPOSE GROUP
Nylon kite string/ 1mm Accessory cord
Parachute cord
Whetstone
Duct tape
Black Diamond ‘Ion’
BCB mess-tin
Surgical Tubing
Safety pins
Needles
Floss
Write-in-Rain paper
Pencil-stub
Bandana
Super glue
Carabineer

*This kit will be waterproof, but the items will be easily accessible, as many of these items are also part of my normal hiking/camping gear

*All of the gear will be stored in a large hip-pack. It also has place on the side for 2 liters of water. The pack has shock cord on the outside could hold a jacket and tarp. There will still (ideal) be enough space to use this hip pack for day walks.

*Most of the things will be stored inside the Mess-tin, while the Carabineer, Para cord, survival bag, and possibly the FAK and water-bladder will be stored outside the tin.

*I have deliberately left out quantities/lengths/size etc, as I don’t what to put there. Hopefully you guys can help me.

*Many of these items are also part of my normal hiking/camping gear
Many thanks in advance!

If you can afford it a full size compass would be preferable.
I´d use a flint rod without the magnesium block. There is better tinder than magnesium, you could use the saved space for that.
I´d replace the super glue with epoxy. It´s more versatile and less dangerous. Some of the epoxy will harden in 5 minutes. That´s quick enough for most purposes and long enough for adjusting the parts.
Take some thinner fishing line for leader material. That helps minimize the loss of line if it breaks.

good points.

I've used a magnesium block to start a fire and it is very frustrating. The blastmatch would be ideal, but I think it is too heavy for this type of kit.

The leaders I was thinking about are steel/metal leaders with swivel on one end and a clip on the other. The trace wire (for snares) can also be used for leaders.

Superglue is more conveiniently sized than epoxy, but i agree that epoxy is superior. Some members include a 'glue stick' in their kits, but I am not 100% sure about what that is.

A full sized compass will be better. I'm too sure how big/small to go though, as I don't know what 'features' I would NEED in a survival situation.

a glue stick are solid glue cantridge you put in electic heated glue guns, they glue almost everything at once without having to dry long, in the field this can be done with a lighter or other fire source.

This is a lot like my pouch survival kit that I am currently building. The only problem I have found is the availability of some of the quality equipment outside of the US. For example the sparklite and rite-in-the-rain paper. The only critisisams that I shall make are the inclusion of two survival bag/blankets. Also a flashlight might be a good idea

only a suggestion but instead of the flares which don't last very long and probably take up quite a bit of space depending on the kind you get, why not take a strobe light such as the acr firefly or similar. i think you could also strech to a bit more first aid gear too.

PC2K

Do you think it would be more usefull then an epoxy glue set?

Some fish are hard to catch with a wire leader. For them a leader that´s about 0.05 mm - 0.1 mm thinner than the main line can come in handy.
IMO the compass should have a transparent base plate for map work, a mirror and a good sight for aiming. Fluid in the capsule will help. It should easily fit into a shirt pocket.
Glue sticks are usually hot glue. It´s melted and dripped onto the surfaces. In field use the results tend to be poor.

mick

First-aid gear is still being debated (i'll put the link for it in this thread now).

Do you have a link for the fire-fly?

I know EXACTLY what you mean about getting stuff outside of the states.
The survival bag is the plastic kind, not the myler/matalic kind. I included 2 because I can wrap the 'blanket' around me and then get inside the 'bag'. Also, much of the hiking in S.A. involves crossing rivers (swimming), and the survival bag is then needind to put my pack and clothes into.

I was thinking of putting the black diamoni ion into the kit because it was small, bright and had a head strap.

Oh yes, I didn't notice the ion. I always recomend the Petzl Zipka headlamp because of its small size and weight, although it is more expensiv than the ion.

ditchfield

what is your hip pack list?

The list I am going to post is of the kit I am currently developing. I will put an x next to they items I already have, although most of the rest are on order. Some of the items on the list are vague because I was unsure of the specific item for the list. I will also put a / next to the items on order. The kit is contained in a british army OD utility pouch and a british army mess tin. The medical kit is lacking because I carry a large FAK in a double ammo pouch parellel to this kit.

No. Signals Group Collected
1 Whistle x
1 Signal Mirror /

Emergency Devices Group
1 Mora Training knife
1 Sharpening Stone?
1 Flint and Striker x
? Tinder /
25 Wind/waterproof matches x
1 Wire /
1 Wire Saw /
1 Compass /
1 Fishing Kit
1 Esbit Pocket Stove, 6 Fuel Tabs x
1 Torch /
2 Scalpel Blades x

Shelter & Personal Protection Group
1 Space Blanket x
1 Lip Salve x
1 Goggles?
1 Pair of Gloves

Medical Group
1 Bandage x
? Plasters x
? Paracetemal x

Water and Food Group
? Tea x
? Sugar x
50 Water Purification tablets x
1 Water Purification Pump /
1 Water Container /
1 Spoon x

Miscellaneous/ multi purpose Group
1 Tape x
? Parachute Cord x
? Candle
1 Survival Booklet x
1 Container x
? Paper
1 Pen x
1 Tweezers x
1 Sewing Kit x
? Duct Tape x

I will post the specific items in the kit when it is completed. Any critisism is welcome.

in the field: HELL NO ! it dries to way to fast and melting it is hrad to ! but if you bring the glue gun with you, it would be ok

instead of the the BCB mess-tin, the COLEMAN PEAK 1® ALUMINUM COOKSET might be another option.

After comparing the ion and zipka/tikka, I'm beginning to have doubts. the ion IS small, but has (apparently) 70 hrs burn time as opposed to 100 and something hrs burn time of the tikka. It would be fine for an emergency light, but it is also a backup light to my hiking gear. So maybe it should be brighter/last longer. looking at gear is a lot of fun, but actually paying for it is the difficult thing <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />!