Oh I hope I am not the cause for this debate. There is certainly enough info in the Long Now link to make for good, relevent discussion. I have no problem with the post, just wanted to point out that the Orlov stuff was already linked once before, not that it's a bad thing to repeat, just that it was a repeat as far as I could tell.

Preparing for something 10,000 years in the future might not be practical, but some of the more near term elaborations from the website and the dissertation do give cause to reconsider some issues about what is/has been happening of late. If nothing else, Orlov's point about stocking commodities now as effective barter for later reaffirms the same thoughts I've already put into action.

It's important to keep a firm grasp of history, so we don't follow others off the edge.