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#164670 - 01/23/09 04:29 PM This is a call to ban all knives!
el_diabl0 Offline
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After reading this article , I strongly feel we need legislation that will ban knives. These are dangerous tools and shouldn't be handled by common folk.

laugh ...kidding of course. A sad story without a doubt, but it does reiterate the fact that if a nutjob wants to kill people, he doesn't need a gun to do it and will do so by any means available.


Edited by el_diabl0 (01/23/09 04:34 PM)
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#164676 - 01/23/09 05:16 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: el_diabl0]
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Here is another story from Canada last summer.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=702288

Ban whatever you like, there is no protection from random crazies.

(The one thing we can be thankful for is that such events are rare enough to be news when they do happen.)


Edited by scafool (01/23/09 05:20 PM)
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#164681 - 01/23/09 05:30 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: scafool]
Stu Offline
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Originally Posted By: scafool
Here is another story from Canada last summer.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=702288

Ban whatever you like, there is no protection from random crazies.

(The one thing we can be thankful for is that such events are rare enough to be news when they do happen.)

Some of us carry our own protection legally.
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#164683 - 01/23/09 06:02 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: Stu]
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Originally Posted By: SBRaider
Some of us carry our own protection legally.


The case in Belgium was with young children.

The young fellow in Canada that got beheaded and snacked upon was asleep on the bus when it happened.

It does not matter what you might carry, packing a pistol might not mean much.
Crazies have guns too.

Remember Charles Whitman?
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/mass/whitman/index_1.html


Edited by scafool (01/23/09 07:32 PM)
Edit Reason: completeness
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#164690 - 01/23/09 06:29 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: ]
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You also can't outlaw stupidity or legislate common sense. Both actions would definitely make it a better world!

If we could ban crazy people (or ensure that they had access to appropriate mental health treatment) that would also reduce these types of incidents. Outlawing any "tool" will just make someone use another "tool" to do the same job. Humans can use their ingenuity to figure out another way to kill each other.


Edited by Mike_in_NKY (01/23/09 06:47 PM)

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#164692 - 01/23/09 06:35 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: ]
scafool Offline
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Originally Posted By: BigDaddyTX
There will always be crazy people. Dunno, this gets into the blurry politics line, so I'll leave it alone, ...


Yeah, I get you. I don't want to get into the pro or anti gun debate either.

All I wanted to point out was that having a pistol in your pocket does not suddenly render you invincible.
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#164701 - 01/23/09 07:19 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: scafool]
benjammin Offline
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Outlawing a tool does not remove it from criminal use. Look at England. They outlawed guns how long ago? and yet they still have people shooting people. But even if you got rid of most of the guns, the argument still holds that bad guys will just find another way of doing what they do. So then you outlaw knives, and now only the bad guys will have them, unless somehow you can eliminate a vast majority from the gen pop so that getting a knife by any means is just going to be difficult. Now the criminals will just use field expedient weapons, such as rock, or sticks, or broken glass, or a jar of gasoline and a match.

And yes, you can outlaw stupidity and legislate common sense, but then we'd only have a one party political system. smirk
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#164705 - 01/23/09 07:27 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: benjammin]
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Yes but if we outlawed stupidity, what would we do with them?

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#164721 - 01/23/09 09:00 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: Mike_in_NKY]
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Originally Posted By: Mike_in_NKY
...if we outlawed stupidity...

I was complaining to a buddy of mine about stupid drivers and how it should be illegal to be stupid. He, a sergeant in our city's police department said "If we made it illegal to be stupid, the streets would be empty." whistle

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#164727 - 01/23/09 09:38 PM Re: This is a call to ban all knives! [Re: benjammin]
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Originally Posted By: benjammin
And yes, you can outlaw stupidity and legislate common sense, but then we'd only have a one party political system. smirk


grin

That's potential sig line material right there AND it works no matter which side of the debate you belong to.
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