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#163483 - 01/16/09 09:44 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Tjin]
Susan Offline
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The next few times you're caught behind the RR crossing arms, entertain yourself by reading the contents of the tank cars: Ammonia, ammonium hydrate, sulfuric acid, propane, chlorine, etc. I don't think they label the radioactive waste, but they do send armed guards with it.

That said, it's still the safest way to transport the stuff. Road tankers are still subject to the driving techniques of twits having trouble managing both their latte's and cell phones.

Sue

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#163500 - 01/16/09 10:38 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Susan]
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Hmmm, the radioactive waste is the safe one.
You should see the containers they ship it in.

The one that got me was the fact they can ship molten metal or explosives on public roads in heavy traffic with nothing but a placard on the truck.

It was only about 15 or 20 years ago cities started designating hazardous material routes. Before that trucks and trains would regularly haul the most dangerous things imaginable through some of the most densely populated areas on the map.
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#163502 - 01/16/09 10:48 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: scafool]
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You should see where some of the Class A explosive stopping location are...
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#163506 - 01/16/09 11:11 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: scafool]
yelp Offline
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Registered: 06/04/08
Posts: 172
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: scafool
It was only about 15 or 20 years ago cities started designating hazardous material routes. Before that trucks and trains would regularly haul the most dangerous things imaginable through some of the most densely populated areas on the map.


On the odd occasion a hazardous cargo will miss their designated route. One of my alma maters administers this place, which meant that more than a fair amount of explosive material got trucked in. The hazardous material route reached well out away from town and it was on occasion a pleasant evening's run.

One night I was walking back from my classroom building across one of the gated streets - Tech is a "gated campus," for whatever reason gates were closed across some roads at night - and there was a semi parked up next to the gate with absolutely no way to turn around. Being a helpful sort of chap, I walked over to see if I could make a phone call for the driver to get the gate unlocked. Lo and behold, the trailer had "explosive" placards all over it, with my house (and a lot of other folks') a mere hundred meters away.

And the driver was just standing there, smoking a cigarette. Sometimes you just gotta laugh.
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#163511 - 01/17/09 12:10 AM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: yelp]
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#163682 - 01/18/09 01:46 PM Re: Simply put - just pays to be prepared... [Re: Susan]
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Registered: 11/10/03
Posts: 710
Loc: Augusta, GA
Originally Posted By: Susan
The next few times you're caught behind the RR crossing arms, entertain yourself by reading the contents of the tank cars: Ammonia, ammonium hydrate, sulfuric acid, propane, chlorine, etc. I don't think they label the radioactive waste, but they do send armed guards with it.
Sue


For a report in one of my EM classes, I purchased the "Emergency Responder's Guide to Railroad Incidents" by Greg. A. Rhoads. An interesting read.

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