Since I have discovered the ETS web site and this forum, I cannot spend a day without checking for new posts.

And every day, I learn a little bit of information : from "how to crap in the wood" <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> to "is dog food good for you" (incidentally, I guess I will now upgrade my own cat's food to a better brand, just in case I have to share her meals .... <img src="images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> ), with "how to make fire with a pepsi bottle cap" in between ..... and so many others subjects I had not even thought about <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> .....

Thanks to Doug and Chris for maintaining this forum ...
Thanks to all of you, for sharing your knowledge.


Alain

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Hi my name is Matt and I'm an ETS junkie... It started slowly, first it was few extra items in my pockets, than a FAK, than PSK and than full blow bug out kit. I stole my mom's TV to pay for my Wave... How did it make me feel? It made me feel grandious (Wave carrying, not TV stealing). Now I'm better but I take my life one day at the time. (wipes a tear off).

Matt

Disclaimer:
No I'm not making fun of AA, when I was in college part of the requirments for my degree (Forensic Psych) was to help run AA meetings. I think these people have more currage and will than some of the "normal" members of society.

Not to mention how to politely discuss controversial topics such as knives, guns and occasionally politics with fanatics who normally would rather use their equipment on each other than agree. <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Some of the other survival sites are even silly enough to debate the merits and alternate uses of a Swiss Army Knife's corkscrew <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> I've even seen them used to hold small firesteels. Any real survivalist carries one. I fully expect to someday collapse at some Canadien's cabin in the woods, only to find row on row of canned food and wine bottles. Then those who sneer at my P38 and corkscrew will hear about it <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

i have heard that wine bottle's with corkscrew are starting to become rare and in about 10 years it will be hard to find a wine bottle with a corkscrew. Apperently people realised that a twist cap, like one on a soda bottle does the same job, without affecting the taste or something. it's easyer to open and most importent for the manufacture: CHEAPER !
so proberbly not much or none, helping chicks with closed wine bottle's for me.. <img src="images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

>>in about 10 years it will be hard to find a wine bottle with a corkscrew<<

Eeew! Not until plastic caps can breathe the same as corks. All good red wines improve with age after bottling (up to a point) and the breathing thru the cork is a critical part of that. I'll give up my SAK corkscrew when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers... seriously, I'm not even interested in SAKs that do not have a corkscrew.

Anyway, uncorking a bottle of good wine is part of a multi step ritual that heightens the anticipation of that first sip... just wouldn't be the same...

why not just cut the neck of the bottle with a kukri or parang <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

You do that only with champagne bottles !!


Alain

<img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> a bottle is a bottle anyway <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

burak

[a bottle is a bottle...]
no, no, no .........
There are bottles and bottles. As there are different wines.

I guess you have never tasted a 1957 Port Wine, for instance .....
You would never even think of "opening" it with a Kukry .... you would get pieces of glass in the wine. And you would have to discard the bottle, a true scandal !!!!! <img src="images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
Now, a bottle of champagne, being under pressure, is easy to "cut" open : simply slide the back of the kukry blade along the neck of the bottle and hit the bulge at the top, just below the cork.
That's a classy way to open a champagne bottle ! <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Alain

<img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> was just a joke, merci. I like wine myself very much and would never waste it. I also keep some wine bottles at home to store olive oil. I had the chance to taste different wines in whole around the mediterranean. I have been in France and I know how serious you Francs are about it. I did not mean to hurt you sorry.

I was once served Porto by a wine expert in Hyatt Regency. He heated the neck of the bottle a bit and then blew it off with a SWORD! It was a nice show and Porto was delicious.

By the way we keep a 1983 Sandeman at my mothers house waiting to be opened when my youngest sister gets married. (I say at least 10 more years) <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Here in the Thrace region you can still buy wine in soil jugs. On the camping trips to Gallipoli we wrap the jug with wet cloth and leave it under the sun. It becomes cool and goes well around the camp fire with some apples or cheese.

Cheers

Burak
Istanbul

Or an antique Ottoman dagger?

I haven't seen a real working one for along while. A nice cleaver would also do the job. There had been ones made for combat!

Burak

Don't worry ! I knew you were kidding (could not be otherwise <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />).

But I never heard about opening Port bottles the way you described. Amazing .... I will have to ask around .....

I won't try it with my old Port bottles (almost as old as I am ...).
I open one, from time to time, when I have good friends, who like Port wine, around me.
Once open, a bottle of Port MUST be emptied at the end of the dinner. Otherwise, it will become oxidized the next day and taste quite differently.
So if we are not enough to drink it at the aperitif, we finish the bottle at the end of the meal, along some Roquefort cheese.

Alain

(Geezzz.... now, I'm hungry ..... and drooling on my desk .... <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />: )

Just to butt into the conversation... When about 6 yo I saw movie adaptation of the Poe's "The Cask of Amontillado". In one of the scenes main character was poping bottles with his sword. I tried the same thing but not to a bottle of wine, but to a bottle of soda, not with a sword but with a finish knife (finka). Lets just say that 10 stiches, good beating and 2 hour later I gained great respect for proper bottle opening procedures. Still my roomate is Portugese and everytime he goes home he brings enough port and wine to keep me happy.

Matt