In my original post, I deleted an off-handed remark about ARTI. I have been to their website many times over the past few years and have noted a self-serving, egocentric attitude. They appear to free-lance their response to incidents. As a member of a county/state technical rescuer team, I can state for a fact, that many well-meaning rescue teams, who take it upon themselves to respond to an incident, become more of a burden than help. On 9/11, our team was placed on standby, we remained so for one month, it was quite frustrating and stressful to play bridesmaid. But, we knew responding on our own was inappropriate and would only tax the Incident Command Structure unnecessarily. One of our team members is also a member of the Pennsylvania Task Force-1 FEMA team that did respond to NYC, he said that many of the outlying fire departments/rescue teams that responded on their own initiative caused a logistical nightmare, actually impeding rescue operations. While I do not often criticize those who whish to help in an emergency, I do have some criticism of the ARTI for their freelance approach. On many occasions of a scene, I and others have requested assistance from by-standers to assist in providing directions to other team members, help carry a patient down a trail, provide information and countless other jobs. But we gauge the needs, risks and benefits of these requests; having someone just start to help without being asked can endanger themselves, the patient and the rescuers. Pete