#160976 - 01/03/09 04:35 AM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: MartinFocazio]
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Journeyman
Registered: 01/16/07
Posts: 60
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The "shower kit" raises some real questions about the size limits of your "container" and the meaning of "carry".
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#160984 - 01/03/09 05:16 AM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: Grahund]
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Veteran
Registered: 09/01/05
Posts: 1474
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If your car kit is inaccessible, thats a pretty bad situation. If I were wearing dress attire and was miles from home, loss of my car kit (extra shoes, etc) would be a major PITA. As Susan mentioned, if the roadways are impassable, walking might be the only way home. And then there's the fires from broken gas lines, etc, etc. After an instant disaster like a major earthquake, improvisation would be the word of the day.
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#161061 - 01/03/09 01:06 PM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: LED]
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Old Hand
Registered: 11/25/06
Posts: 742
Loc: MA
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Another suggestion for good dress-looking shoes that are extremely comfy: Blundstones. I have had a pair for over a year now, and love them. Mine are laceless (I cannot stand lace up shoes, a silly pet peeve, I know!), and look like dress shoes, but arecomfy like docs. They look quite smart, actually! I have enough stuff in my jeep for an indefinite time away, minus food and water. Living in new england, water isnt really an issue; besides, I alsways have my water bottle with me. But, for EDC, I carry very little, barring two knives, and my keychain. However, it really isnt practical for me to carry gear with me. The worst we have to deal with is snow or ice storms, which, incidentally, my sisters family was without power for almost 2 weeks. My nephew cooked for his two younger siblings for the fist few days, on a soda can stove I helped him make. And, he had plenty of other gear to keep warm, until they got to a shelter. Needless to say, I was proud of him!! But, these types of storms are rare; and usually it is a sit & wait scenario.
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#161114 - 01/03/09 05:52 PM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: Grahund]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 06/18/06
Posts: 358
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Living in the NY Metro area, here's my EDC: A Spdyerco Delica, Leatherman Xe-6, Mcfeely Pocket Wrench, orange bandana, 2nd. orange bandana- hot ironed placed in a Gerber Breast Milk Bag with some flat rolled Gorilla tape secured to the bag, wallet with flat maganifier- 4 quarters- $400 in cash (a mix of bills)- credit cards- ID, Medic Alert necklace with: name- tel. no.-Blood Type - etc., keychain with 2 Photons- pill capsule- P-38- Bison whistle- BSA fire starter rod- Utili-Key- compass, and a box of small wood matches. I also try to have a larger GHB kit in a briefcase or small backpack, but that's for a different post.
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#161115 - 01/03/09 05:57 PM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: Grahund]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 06/18/06
Posts: 358
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Forgot to list my Blackberry.
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#161117 - 01/03/09 06:18 PM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: scafool]
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Cranky Geek
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
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I carry leather shells, wool liners, and two pairs of nitriles EDC. *laughs* Putting my fingers on stuff sharp/rough/dirty/cold/hot/slippery/icky is just part of normal planning.
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#161131 - 01/03/09 07:58 PM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: ironraven]
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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It's not "if the roads are impassible", they WILL be impassible. That's an absolute guarantee. I lived in the Bay Area for six years and rode out a few 'inconsequential' shakes. I left on September 14, 1989 and a month later the Loma Prieta quake hit and, generally speaking, it was a minor quake, 6.9 and only 15 seconds long.
You can also count on the signposts being down, twisted or nonexistent, so if you have to go somewhere (like home) you'd best have a compass on your person, in addition to the maps, because the areas you know so well probably won't be all that recognizable.
Living off the land in that particular scenario will be impossible, no matter how you meant it, with so many unprepared people so close. Any store that is still accessible will be empty of useful items by the time you get there. You will be lucky to survive a foot trip, and the more you look like a homeless person, the better. The Brooks Brothers suit, Italian shoes, good haircut and laptop case will scream 'PREY!"
The Anchorage earthquake (1964) had a moment magnitude of 9.2 and registered 8.4 on the Richter scale. There were vertical land displacements of up to 38 feet, and tsunamis up to 70 feet high.
Can you imagine if anything similar hit the Bay area? There would probably be major quake liquification of all the areas that are built on fill (like Foster City), and maybe much of the shoreline, too. SF is 52'above sea level, San Mateo, 43', Burlingame, 25', E. Palo Alto, 24', Oakland, 42', Alameda, 30', San Leandro, 49', Hayward, 32'. Add a tidal wave to that...
I never loitered on the Golden Gate or the Bay/Oakland bridges, either.
Just the idea gives me the shudders.
Sue
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#161145 - 01/03/09 08:56 PM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: Susan]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 02/09/01
Posts: 3824
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I have little to offer to the many good replies but this; MAKE FRIENDS! I've been 3 decades out of San Francisco.I still keep in touch with a chinese kid i did a rather off the record favour for in bootcamp. The people in Herman's deli on Geary remember me, as does the owner of Cable Car Clothiers and City Lights Bookstore. The ladies on lake Mac Arthrur have probably all passed, but the black jazz club still sends me fliers for concerts. When the Mafia Don I met at a deli passed away I sent a condolence card- and a thankyou note from his bodyguard! You're in a unique, multicultural city within small geographical boundaries, the ones our grandparents grew up in back east. So make friends there. In a disaster a known face is worth more than all the bartering bricks of .22s money can buy.
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#161151 - 01/03/09 09:19 PM
Re: Instant Disaster
[Re: Grahund]
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I am not a P.P.o.W.
Old Hand
Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
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One thing I need to think more about is "living off the land" so to speak. As scafool points out, at least in the immediate aftermath there will be lots of resources available. Having a pre-planned "shopping list" might be a good idea. That I can EDC. Sounds like a good way to get shot for looting.
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