#160607 - 12/31/08 12:16 AM
Winter travel calls for good judgment
|
Pooh-Bah
Registered: 01/28/01
Posts: 2216
|
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160616 - 12/31/08 01:00 AM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
|
Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
|
"Too bad there is no treatment for bad judgment."
Truer words were never spoken.
I hope they gave Two-Time Charlie a good bill for the second rescue.
Sue
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160620 - 12/31/08 01:23 AM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Susan]
|
Veteran
Registered: 10/14/08
Posts: 1517
|
They should bill him for the first one as well.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160666 - 12/31/08 12:15 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
|
I am not a P.P.o.W.
Old Hand
Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
|
"The kicker to the story about the rescue near Lake Mary is that two of the people came back to the road the next day and got stuck again and had to be rescued again. These two people hiked the road in what was described as heavy snow, and one man became missing at about 4:30 p.m." Darwin award winners in the making.......
_________________________
Our most important survival tool is our brain, and for many, that tool is way underused! SBRaider Head Cat Herder
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160675 - 12/31/08 01:40 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Susan]
|
Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 1534
Loc: Muskoka
|
"Too bad there is no treatment for bad judgment."
Truer words were never spoken.
I hope they gave Two-Time Charlie a good bill for the second rescue.
Sue Ah, but there are treatments, and they are injury and death. These treatments can be thought of as being self administered.
Edited by scafool (12/31/08 01:41 PM)
_________________________
May set off to explore without any sense of direction or how to return.
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160680 - 12/31/08 02:03 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: scafool]
|
Geezer
Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5359
Loc: SOCAL
|
They could also stop coddling these people in the press. Give the idiots the 15 minutes they are due and name them. Let all their friends and neighbors know that they live next to an idiot who can't drive in snow and is too stupid to know not to go hiking in a blizzard. Charge them with endangering the welfare of a child because they don't have enough common sense to be considered an adult.
_________________________
Better is the Enemy of Good Enough. Okay, what’s your point??
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160687 - 12/31/08 02:41 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
|
Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
|
Job security for the public servants.
We used to have the same problem with a state highway in central CA. Every winter it would disappear under 'bout 10 ft of water then mud for a distance of 'bout two miles. And every winter dummies would drive around the barricades and signs. Then get stuck, requiring highway workers, highway cops, fire guys, swift water rescue guys, and helicopters respond to save their waterlogged butts. And they would get upset that their vehicles (now ruined, but they wouldn't believe that) got left there 'til the water went down and the mud removed by a fleet of front loaders and dump truck. Then we would have a tow respond to remove the hulk, and the owners would get the bill for that. Which of course they would not pay, so the tow company had to eat the bill. Sadly, the state couldn't bill them for all of the rescue folks...
_________________________
OBG
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160693 - 12/31/08 03:08 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
|
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/03/07
Posts: 3078
|
but lets all learn something from it and try to use good judgment Its really just human nature that folks learn from their mistakes rather than have an understanding or some foresight of the consequences of their actions. It all really just boils down to a lack of experience. Take for example driving in the snow and controlling a vehicle for slippery conditions. In countries such a Finland, driving in snow conditions is par for the course. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sSUIqNBUdXYIt can also be fun getting that experience for when conditions get really bad.
Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (12/31/08 03:09 PM)
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160694 - 12/31/08 03:16 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
|
Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
|
Ya gotta love that!!!
_________________________
OBG
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160695 - 12/31/08 03:18 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Doug_Ritter]
|
I am not a P.P.o.W.
Old Hand
Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
|
Sadly, the state couldn't bill them for all of the rescue folks... Arizona has a "Stupid Motorist Law" that allows those who drive around barricades to be billed for the full cost of rescue plus up to $2000 fine. That is a good thing...... 
_________________________
Our most important survival tool is our brain, and for many, that tool is way underused! SBRaider Head Cat Herder
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160706 - 12/31/08 04:17 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: OldBaldGuy]
|
Old Hand
Registered: 03/19/05
Posts: 1185
Loc: Channeled Scablands
|
California counties can bill residents for rescues, or if the lame happen to be from another county, the other county can be billed.
Usually the rescues are covered by county taxes if you are a resident or your county has a reciprocal agreement with the county responsible for rescue.
I don't know if the State can bill folks tho. Probably be cheaper if they would just fix the drainage problem.
Edited by clearwater (12/31/08 04:18 PM)
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160707 - 12/31/08 04:25 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: clearwater]
|
Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
|
"...I don't know if the State can bill folks tho..."
As far as I know (things may have changed since I retired), the CHP only bills drunk drivers that cause an accident for the departments expenses. If the drunk does not cause the T/C, he/she is not billed. The department does not charge anyone else for anything. I don't know about other state or county agencies...
_________________________
OBG
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160725 - 12/31/08 06:53 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: OldBaldGuy]
|
Rapscallion
Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 02/06/04
Posts: 4020
Loc: Anchorage AK
|
Holding people financially accountable for their actions... now where have I heard that notion before? Hmmmmmmmmm....
Why is it when someone does something idiotic in their car and needs rescue, everyone thinks they should be held accountable, yet if that same person heads into the wilderness afoot and does something equally idiotic that they require rescue from, that is somehow okay? Risk is risk, and I see no difference between the two outcomes. Either the rescuee is responsible, or else everyone else is.
I do hate double standards.
_________________________
The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160727 - 12/31/08 07:23 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: Blast]
|
Member
Registered: 03/27/08
Posts: 191
Loc: NYC
|
"Sometimes I think a lot of the problems in the corld would be solved if we were allowed to eat foolish people."
But Blast, what about the ancient practice of choosing to eat an animal, or certain parts of it, in order to acquire its qualities? The heart of a lion for courage, and all that...
|
Top
|
|
|
|
#160738 - 12/31/08 09:13 PM
Re: Winter travel calls for good judgment
[Re: nurit]
|
Geezer
Registered: 09/30/01
Posts: 5695
Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
|
"...eat foolish people..."
I doubt that they would taste good...
_________________________
OBG
|
Top
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
31
|
|
|
|
0 registered (),
220
Guests and
17
Spiders online. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|