Lono:

I disagree with you and agree with Eugene. There are many, many security experts with no ties or vested interests in any software company that state the same facts. But I guess Jeff Jones is the only real expert that counts in your view.

I just finished a test of 0 day compromise attacks against fully patched and unprotected Win XP and Win Vista systems. Within 23 minutes of putting both these pc's on the internet, they were both compromised with the XP faring the worst.

A comparison test using Linux distro, Centos, Suse and Kubuntu showed that all three of these pc's using a default install still have not been compromised after 4 days around the clock exposure to the internet.

Is this is scientific test? No it is not, yet is close to the real word testing as we need to make reasonable and key decision on.

I noticed that you claim to be located in the PNW...would your work address be somewhere near Microsoft Way, Redmond WA.?