#159713 - 12/23/08 07:45 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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Sherpadog
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I posted this in the tread about tire chains which mentioned this thread and is worth posting here also.
They made a number of simple but deadly mistakes that cost them their lives. Not having tire chains is not the cause of their death. They died by not being Equipped to Survive.....period.
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#159722 - 12/23/08 10:15 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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Registered: 06/08/05
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Loc: Quebec City, Canada
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Did I read correctly? This guy died roughly *one mile* from his home?
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#159723 - 12/23/08 10:15 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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This is surprising, especially considering the age of the victims. It doesn't take too long in extremely cold country to learn that you better be prepared.
Then again, I see men my age (35+) all the time going in the store/gas station/etc in shorts and flip flops with a hooded sweatshirt and it's 15 F outside with windchill.
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#159724 - 12/23/08 10:30 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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This is one of the problems that I can see occurring during my 18 hr rental car drives, to & from work.
That's why I've put together a Personal Support Kit (mini BoB) for those trips.
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#159737 - 12/24/08 03:15 AM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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Geezer
Registered: 01/21/04
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Loc: W. WA
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One mile from home in whiteout conditions with temps below zero might as well be a hundred.
You would think people living in that part of the country would be a bit better prepared. But I guess it's the same there as everywhere else.
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#159759 - 12/24/08 03:11 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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Geezer
Registered: 06/02/06
Posts: 5359
Loc: SOCAL
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Looks like folks over-estimating their ability and under-estimating mother nature.
Dressing for the weather en route is always prudent, but how many actually do that small thing. Accidents can happen anytime of year, but there seem to be more in snow/ice/whiteout conditions. Do I always dress that way when I'm out? No, but I always have a duffel bag with cold weather gear in the back of the truck. Boots, wool socks and liners, long underwear -- clothing I very rarely use in SOCAL. I guess it's just a good place to store it. . .
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#159781 - 12/24/08 05:35 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 12/18/08
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Loc: Muskoka
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Sometimes it is better to just stay where you are, phone to let friends know you wont be driving at that time and wait until the storm (blizzard) is finished before trying to travel home. I am sure half of the secret of surviving is to not take risks that you do not have to.
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#159792 - 12/24/08 07:04 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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Registered: 06/02/06
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Loc: SOCAL
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Considering the 23 deg F, white-out conditions that existed, he definitely should have considered not driving, or at least stayed with the car once he left the road. If he couldn't see to drive, how could he see to walk with snow drifts changing the look of everything.
It usually is best to stay with the vehicle, but even the inside of a car or truck will eventually get to ambient. If you normally wear denim/cotton like many of us do, a change to wool clothing that is more appropriate can make a huge difference. I could do quite well with the food, clothing and gear in the back of my truck.
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#159795 - 12/24/08 07:12 PM
Re: Two freeze to death after auto mishaps
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Registered: 09/30/01
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Loc: Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
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"...you don't have paper boys anymore..."
Some places still do, altho they might not be "boys" as in years past. In Mariposa County, CA, a "paperboy" makes more than a deputy sheriff. How is that for sad???
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