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#159012 - 12/18/08 11:25 PM The New Y2K is Y2010K
falcon5000 Offline
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I started hearing about this on the news already,
now the scientist say that by 2010 or 2011 that when the solar winds hit the earth in the next cycle that loss of satellite communication and navigation plus compass readings will be off the wall. So that means the only way to navigate is by the stars or landmarks with paper maps. No ATM machine communication or SAT TV. I love it, I need to open me a Y2010K store and sell sexton nav tools, waterproof paper maps, food, water the whole gig since I missed out on any money making with the Y2K scare,

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Scientists_Predict_Big_Sunspot_Cycle_Coming.html

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/21dec_cycle24.htm

Scientists Predict Big Solar Cycle
Solar cycle 24, due to peak in 2010 or 2011 "looks like its going to be one of the most intense cycles since record-keeping began almost 400 years ago,"

The peak of the cycle, called the Solar Maximum, generates more frequent magnetic storms and ejections of energetic particles that can slow satellite orbits - thereby interfering with global navigation – as well as disrupt communications and bring down power systems.
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#159020 - 12/19/08 12:01 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: falcon5000]
Am_Fear_Liath_Mor Offline
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Sounds as if the Aurora Borealis will be even more spectacular in 2010/2011. smile

Celestial navigation using a sextant is really now a dying art, so it might be an idea to get hold of a sextant and learn how to navigate using one. Of course the computation part of the fix is now easily computed using a Palm computer and the appropriate software. Of course the accuracy of the fix is only as good as the observations. Ebay might be a good place to start to pick up a good quality second hand sextant and begin practicing.

http://www.mobilegeographics.com/celestnav/

It should prove to be a interesting skill to practice for, in terms of accuracy to obtain a positional fix and of course this method of positional fixing doesn't rely on a broadcast signal such as GPS.

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#159021 - 12/19/08 12:13 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
Ian Offline
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But those articles are datelined 2006. Cycle 24 is late and the latest predictions are that it will be normal.

http://www.arrl.org/news/stories/2008/12/12/10503/?nc=1

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#159022 - 12/19/08 12:17 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: falcon5000]
Yuccahead Offline
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I wouldn't put too much faith in those predictions. Those articles were written in 2006. At least one of the articles has proven itself wrong over the intervening 2+ years. It said, "... expect the cycle to begin in late 2007 or early 2008."

It's almost 2009 and the new cycle has not started yet. There is currently no sunspot activity. Zero sunspots. Lowest it can be. (There was a sunspot visible in October IIRC.) Other models seem to now predict a cycle peak in 2011 or 2012. So you have an extra year to start your new venture. grin

See: http://www.spaceweather.com/ for current sun conditions.
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#159025 - 12/19/08 12:35 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: falcon5000]
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Too bad I am retired, I made a lot of overtime sitting around the office drinking coffee when nothing happened at midnight of 1999-2000...
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#159027 - 12/19/08 12:40 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: Yuccahead]
falcon5000 Offline
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I didn't even notice the dates, yea you are right. I had saw a brief bit on CNN a few nights ago from one of the Japanese scientist and did a brief Google search to find those articles. I wonder why this guy was on the news last night ranting and raving about it. Oh well there goes another money making scheme down the tubes. Y2K, Dot Com melt down, housing melt down, gas price hike, gun ammo scare, bailout disaster, and this. I can't wait for the meteorite scare next.
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#159040 - 12/19/08 01:34 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: falcon5000]
jaywalke Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
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You'd be better off trying to make a buck off the 2012 panic. The end of the 5000 year Mayan calendar, a massive solar eclipse, a Near Earth Object fly-by . . . it's going to be interesting.


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#159043 - 12/19/08 01:40 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: jaywalke]
Mike_in_NKY Offline
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Registered: 05/22/07
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If your could only use your hindsight knowledge to invest before you had the hindsight! We would all be rich!

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#159044 - 12/19/08 01:41 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: falcon5000]
Yuccahead Offline
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Though I can't remember what web-site I saw it on, I recall reading that solar scientists are pretty confused by the delay in the start of the new solar cycle. IIRC, some scientists were saying the days of the 11-year cycle are over. Others were saying this could mean an onset of a Maunder Minimum and associated global cooling like the Little Ice Age. Even others were saying it meant the Cubs would certainly win the World Series in 2009.

So the opportunity is still there to start stocking up on cold weather gear and Cubs memorabilia.





Edited by Yuccahead (12/19/08 01:42 AM)
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#159085 - 12/19/08 03:48 AM Re: The New Y2K is Y2010K [Re: Yuccahead]
Chris Kavanaugh Offline
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Before everyone rushes out to buy a sextant on EBAY and Bowditches Practical Navigator, take a deep breath.
IF you get one that isn't a cheap brass indian knockoff ( hint, not that many sextants survived from the Titanic)odds are it hasn't been maintained or, and a big or, calibrated and cerified as accurate.
If you want to learn sextant use there are very modest plastic starter units, much like basic compasses for new users.
No, you won't look like Captains Courageous striking a Captain Morgan pose.You also won't loook like a fool with a $600 paperwieght.
And as for it being a dying art, thats like saying a wheelgun is no good in a gunfight. Lots of people still use tested methodologies, not just those making fire with flint and steel.


Edited by Chris Kavanaugh (12/19/08 03:52 AM)

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