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#157859 - 12/10/08 01:30 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: Stu]
tranx Offline
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Registered: 10/15/01
Posts: 35
Loc: Belgium
This may be off topic, but related. A couple of months ago, I opened a box of stuff always kept in my car (for a couple of years and not checked > no good, I know). It included a couple of Bic lighters with flint. They had the same problem: a white/grey powder on them and in the box. After testing it seems the flints were partially or totally disintegrated.

The strange thing: some were unaffected, others seemed partially disintegrated, others totally useless.

The lighters were placed there at the same moment. Why such a difference in condition? Some lighters have been used tot test them, others not.

Some questions to try and understand the differences:
- were the ones tested/used the ones that disintegrated? (by rubbing of the coating?
- Were they affected by moisture?
- are there other reasons?

There was a packet of 4 lighters that was still in the original unopened foil wrapper. They were all unaffected.

Does this mean the best thing to do is to put a never used lighter and/or sparklite in a kit to have the most chance of having an unaffected one?

I have no sparklite. I would love to, but can't find them locally in Belgium (Europe).

Greetings,
tranx

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#157899 - 12/10/08 06:50 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: tranx]
TheSock Offline
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Registered: 11/13/07
Posts: 471
Loc: London England
Even more off topic: I put a little possibles kit in the car glove compartment in the spring. When I checked it in the autumn. I found everything had a strange feel and there was a 6 inch piece of string I don't remember putting in there.
Then I realised the candle was gone :-).
Use high melting point candles folks.
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#157900 - 12/10/08 06:54 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: TheSock]
comms Offline
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Registered: 07/23/08
Posts: 1502
Loc: Mesa, AZ
I learned that lesson the hard way in Phoenix when i first got here. learned that Vaseline lip balm while hot, does not melt like Chapstick when left in a car that reaches 150 degrees in the summer.

Same with deoderant left in a gym bag. Spray or roll on but not a solid.
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#157957 - 12/11/08 10:20 AM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: comms]
BOD Offline
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Registered: 07/17/07
Posts: 33
Loc: paleotropics
Too sophisticated a technology. Keep it simple.

Get a fire steel and paint it with clear nail varnish to prevent any corrosion (or coral pink red if that appeals to you) Better still keep a piece of flint, that wont corrode.

Go paleo for long term reliability
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#157995 - 12/11/08 06:00 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: thatmguy]
raptor Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 288
Loc: Europe
Unfortunately I had problems with my Spark-Lite too not long time ago. I donīt know whether it was bad item or not but itīs output was way too weak even for prepared fluffed up Tinder quik. I guess itīs rather because of the design. I am also fan of more simple survival tools. If the ferrocerium rod inside the Spark-lite could be easily pulled out and used like classic Swedish firesteel when neccessary it would be another story for me.

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#158000 - 12/11/08 06:40 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: tranx]
raptor Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 288
Loc: Europe
Originally Posted By: tranx
I have no sparklite. I would love to, but can't find them locally in Belgium (Europe).


Hi tranx, I guess I am in a similar situation like you when getting these less usual items because I am from Czech republic. When I wanted to try Spark-lite I found an on-line store which carried knives, flashlights, some firestarters etc. There was no Spark-lite though so I asked them via e-mail if they could purchase it for me and they absolutely agreed. Several days later I had my Spark-lite. They even added it to their store. I am sure that if I will ever need something survival related that no store here carryies I can ask them to purchase it for me.
You could try the same strategy - try to contact some knife on-line stores (that purchase a lot of brands from USA) and ask if they would purchase Spark-lite for you.

When this fails you can contact me using Personal Message - I could purchase it and send it to you. It would be a bit more expensive this way though due to the added shipping.



Edited by raptor (12/11/08 07:25 PM)
Edit Reason: typing errors correction

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#158004 - 12/11/08 06:50 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: raptor]
Stu Offline
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Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
The wheel is made to work 1 way, and there is a arrow on the shaft that gives the correct direction to spin the wheel. If used the wrong way it will give far fewer sparks
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#158006 - 12/11/08 06:56 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: Stu]
Stu Offline
I am not a P.P.o.W.
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Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
For European Spark-Lites contact four seasons directly
http://www.fourseasonssurvival.com/Spark..._p_128-109.html
The will ship directly to Western Europe
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#158010 - 12/11/08 07:10 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: raptor]
yelp Offline
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Registered: 06/04/08
Posts: 172
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: raptor
When I wanted to try Spark-lite I found an on-line store which carried knives, flashlights, some firestarters etc. There was no Spark-lite though so I asked them via e-mail if they could purchase it for me and they absolutely agreed. Several days later I had my Spark-lite. They even added it to heir store.


Who's that vendor and are they in Europe? Though I can figure out the last part with the answer to the first part. It'd be good to know, thanks for your input.
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#158012 - 12/11/08 07:39 PM Re: Sparklite failure... [Re: yelp]
raptor Offline
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Registered: 04/05/08
Posts: 288
Loc: Europe
Hi yelp, yes, it is located in Europe but it is just Czech on-line store - www.mujnuz.cz (alternative address: www.nuz-knife-messer.cz). I guess it wonīt be useful to anyone outside the Czech Republic because it is not some reseller for whole Europe or something like that.

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