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#157483 - 12/07/08 03:37 AM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: AROTC]
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
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Interesting - I've always found that the Inuprofen works great (for me) and Naprox is useless - does nothing for me
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#157491 - 12/07/08 05:35 AM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: KG2V]
Jakam
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Yep, no offense, Iz, but Ibuprofen is the only effective analgesic for me as well- naproxen products really upset my stomach, Advil doesn't. And it relieves the pain, whether headache or other.

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#157502 - 12/07/08 07:57 AM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: Desperado]
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Loc: Manhattan
Army Chemical Corp. I'd love to hear your E&E suggestions, everyone goes to the sandbox sometime and I'd definitely consider one there.
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#157513 - 12/07/08 01:30 PM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: Oni]
Paragon Offline
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Registered: 10/21/07
Posts: 231
Loc: Greensboro, NC
Originally Posted By: Oni
The center punch is for getting ones self out if trapped in a car. Of course if the situation is dire you won't have too much time to dig in the kit and get it out. However I feel it is a useful tool like the multi and mini prybar. I make knives and tools for a living so I carry more in the way of tools than most people.

The link to the EDC in my signature shows a ResQME mini rescue tool that I have attached to my keychain:



Shown here removed from the quick-disconnect, a razor-edged seat belt cutter is exposed, while the opposite end features a spring-loaded center punch that is used to shatter the side window:



Although carrying a machinist’s center punch is better than nothing, digging through a Maxpedition pouch while trapped upside down in a river or while your car burns to the ground after a serious collision is not what I would consider an ideal situation.

Jim
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#157523 - 12/07/08 03:36 PM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: KG2V]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
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Me too. With my back (and now shoulder), I live on 800mg...
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#157527 - 12/07/08 03:42 PM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: Paragon]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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I have a spring loaded centerpunch attached to the drivers sunvisor in our P/U, but a strike with any sharp object will shatter a tempered window. In an emergency one could remove the key from the ignition, hold it with the tip pointing out from between two fingers, the blunt end of the key in your palm with a fist made, and punch the window hard. That might hurt a little bit, but should shatter the window. Or if a knife is handy, put the tip against he glass and whack the butt of the knife with your palm, same result...
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#157543 - 12/07/08 05:16 PM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: ]
UncleGoo Offline
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Registered: 12/06/06
Posts: 390
Loc: CT
Tongue in cheek:

Placebo®--works on almost everything, almost every time. The real plus is you only have to carry one "med."
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#157549 - 12/07/08 06:10 PM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: KG2V]
Stu Offline
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Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
Originally Posted By: KG2V_was_kc2ixe
Interesting - I've always found that the Inuprofen works great (for me) and Naprox is useless - does nothing for me

I agree, when I tore my knee up, both my Orth. Surgeon (teaching at Cornell Med school)and my G.P. both recommended Ibuprofen over Naprox both for the pain and the swelling. My physical therapist also suggested it.
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#157563 - 12/07/08 08:39 PM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: Stu]
Yuccahead Offline
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Registered: 07/24/08
Posts: 199
Loc: W. Texas
I too have found ibuprofen to work quite well for me. I have also taken Aleve thinking it was ibuprofen and took them every 4 hours instead of every 12. They worked well also but cave me a stomach ache for a couple of days. If you keep both of these in your kit, find a way to keep the dosage readable.
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#157571 - 12/07/08 09:22 PM Re: Escape & Evasion kits [Re: ]
KG2V Offline

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Registered: 08/19/03
Posts: 1371
Loc: Queens, New York City
[quote=IzzyJG99...snip...
Personally Tylenol (Kills your liver. Bad to give to anyone who has had any kind of Hep.) ...snip...[/quote]

I can't take Tylenol, because I'm also taking Hydocodone APAP, which has about the maximum safe daily dose of Acetominiphin anyway.

Back before the opiates, I found that Tylenol and Motrin and a synergistic effect (it's been documented too) - alternate them, each on it's own schedule

I keep saying my leg is messed up - if you look at what I take as pain killers, you'll get a hint HOW messed up - and adding MRSA on top of the wound is not fun. Other day, I had to wash my wound in the shower - by the time I walked from the tub to my room - say 25 ft, I had blood all the way down to the floor on my leg. People here talk about wound care - The Long Term phamacy ships me 50 4x4, 25 rolls Kerlix, plus my silver bandages, every 2 weeks, and I usually run out of 4x4s. One of the interesting things is the wound care MDs teach you how to change your own dressings (if they can) so I don't have to have a visiting nurse every other day, or go to the office 3x/week. I go 1-2x/week to have the wound washed out, and basic debridement done
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