#15700 - 05/06/03 08:44 PM
Seeling water
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In doug's Two Person Primary Survival Kit He says: "1.2 Qt./ 1.25-liter Wide Mouth Rectangular Loop-top Lexan Nalgene Bottle filled w/ purified water then boiled and sealed*" How do you seel water in a bottle? Is the bottle valcume packed or is it just tighted? And how do you spell sealed? Is it sealed or seeled? Thanks
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#15701 - 05/06/03 11:02 PM
Re: Seeling water
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Registered: 03/13/02
Posts: 905
Loc: Seattle, Washington
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Pete,
I am going to let Doug completely clarify the water advice, but I spell it sealed, most of the time <img src="images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />. I got a D in spelling though.
My intrepretation of the water advice is this. Fill the Nalgene Lexan bottle with prepurified water, leaving the lid slightly loose, place it in a large pot of water and boil it for a certain amount of time, remove the Nalgene bottle and tighten the lid.
This is how my Mother canned foods. My guess is the Lexan bottle is required to take the resultant vacuum created by sealing (or seeling <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />) the hot bottle of water.
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#15702 - 05/07/03 02:51 AM
Re: Seeling water
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This is my method, also learned from family canning ( fruit not my little brother <img src="images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> ) As for spelling? Daniel Webster took a language with an amusing set of 'rules' and further colored ( coloured) the situation. My Anglican schoolmistress merely insisted we learn both spellings. This actually increased my talents, much like ambidextrous and multi lingual children. I now mutilate words in two systems. <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Edited by Chris Kavanaugh (05/07/03 02:52 AM)
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#15703 - 05/07/03 04:04 AM
Re: Seeling water
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Registered: 08/22/01
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Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
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"In those older Scottish writings, golf is variously spelled gouff, goiff, goffe, goff, gowff, and golph. Our modern determination to have only one correct spelling for each word would have struck our ancestors as hilariously pedantic and priggish." http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/golf.htm, debunking the Internet myth that "golf" is an acronym.
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#15704 - 05/07/03 01:20 PM
Re: Sealing water
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Registered: 11/19/02
Posts: 134
Loc: England & Saudi Arabia
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SEALED is the correct English. (And I don't give a damn about whether that's priggish or not). By the way hasn't anyone told the MIcrosoft Corporation that there's no such thing as English (US). If our cousins over the pond insist on using the mother-tongue, the least they can do is not debase it (nah, nah, nah, nah, nah !!!!!!)
Edited by Casual_Hero (05/07/03 01:21 PM)
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#15705 - 05/07/03 02:01 PM
Re: Sealing water
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This from people who can't even get the number of syllables right in "aluminum"? <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#15706 - 05/07/03 02:49 PM
Re: Sealing water
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 02/09/01
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If this thread becomes heated I will secure it with a spanner, hook up a float to my lorrie and go on holiday with my steed,or is it stead? <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#15707 - 05/07/03 04:12 PM
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No problem. The honourable Mr. Hero is just favouring us with a little local colour.
Besides, I have it on excellent authority that the word is actually spelled "ceiling". <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#15708 - 05/07/03 06:08 PM
Re: Sealing water
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Registered: 03/13/02
Posts: 905
Loc: Seattle, Washington
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Here is how I would go aboout ceiling yyooup some water...
Add a goodly amount of water to an aluminium kettle obtained from a jumble sale, set it on the Aga and bring it right to a boil.
Take your Lexan bottle, top off with a couple of halfpints of pure Devonshire water, twist up the stopper until nearly done up like a kipper, and immerse in the boilling water.
Boil the dickens out of it for a game or two of Snakes and Ladders. Let it boil, don't be a nosey-parker. Then remove the bottle with a pair of long-handled Mole-grips. Don't be a gormless git and splash the water aboout on your trousers. Do up the stopper right tight, let cool, and Bob's your Uncle, your water is nought manky!
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#15709 - 05/07/03 08:05 PM
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Registered: 05/10/02
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Loc: Cape Town, South Africa
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Well, I personally prefer the English (SA) spelling for microsoft office...
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#15710 - 05/08/03 01:10 AM
Re: Seeling water
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I'm not one who is so concerned on speaking or spelling words, but more on their meanings (or is it meenings or meignings)... <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Anyway, is using bottled water or tap water or filtered water (e.g. Brita, PUR, etc.) the same as "purified"? Or is there an acceptable way to purify water for long term storage?
As for sealing (or seeling or ceiling as you may like), after boiling (or bowling or boughling (I think I coined a new word)) the water, has anyone wrapped the bottle with some form of shrink wrap or waterproof tape? Or is just tightening the bottle good enough (assuming the Nalgene Lexan bottles) ?
PS - How do you all store water in your vehicle? I know some people like those 2.5 gallon or 5 gallon monsters. I was more thinking of buying the Nalgene bottles and placing several (on the order of dozens) underneath all the seats in the car. You could even sew up something with pockets and velcro to keep them from moving around. Think of all the water you could fit under the seats and not take up trunk space....
Bounty-Hunter <img src="images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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#15711 - 05/08/03 02:02 AM
Re: Seeling water
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A word of caution when placing heavy (> 1 pound) items on the floor of your vehicle - especially if they fit under the seats. A 1 pound item becomes a deadly missile around 30 miles per hour and may thwart an attempt at an emergency stop if it impacts the accelerator pedal. Something stronger than velcro will be required to prevent this eventuality. I have experienced this with a text book and was almost killed during an attempted emergency stop during college. Since then I have banned all objects from the drivers leg area and in vehicles such as my van and jeep where the back seat room will roll under the front seat - I have banned floor items altogether unless the detritus of loose light obstacles or other blockades are in-place.
In my van I use one of those aftermarket console thingys to prevent the passenger side detritus from migrating into my leg space and I use large 1 Gallon spring water bottles behind the driver seat to prevent things from migrating from behind - BTW that gives me about 3 gallons of water - all set except when it freezes. I use the Poland spring screw top bottles they are very sturdy and I have some that are nearing 3 years old and still holding up. I refill from the tap, rotate the stock, and drink as needed. I have yet to have anything grow in my bottles un wanted. (I am lucky to have a decently clean well under my tap.)
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#15712 - 05/08/03 03:01 AM
Re: Seeling water
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Registered: 08/22/01
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Loc: St. John's, Newfoundland
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Excellent point. And a round or cylindrical object could come loose and roll under the brake pedal at the most inopportune moment.
Not entirely on topic, but I nearly got into a very embarrassing accident one time when I put a cup of coffee on the instrument panel of my car, behind the steering wheel. When I pulled out of the parking lot and turned left, the coffee cup tipped over, so I instinctively grabbed it with my right hand.
As the car attempted to straighten out, the wheel trapped my hand underneath the crosspiece. Unable to go straight, the car continued turning left; I had to jam on the brakes in the middle of the intersection and barely missed ramming some poor innocent driver who was stopped at the lights.
I think my face was redder than the light he had stopped for <img src="images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
I once saw a car in the parking lot that had a set of darts (as in: what they used to play in English pubs) lying loose on the back shelf. Imagine getting hit in the head with one of those travelling at 30 mph. <img src="images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
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#15713 - 05/08/03 02:49 PM
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Loc: England & Saudi Arabia
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Thats LORRY
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#15714 - 05/08/03 02:51 PM
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Exactly - spiffing review
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#15715 - 05/09/03 07:27 AM
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Loc: Southern California
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I took 6 of those foil 125ml emergency drinking water packets, and stuffed them in a large-mouth 32oz Nalgene bottle.
Threw in a bottle of iodine tabs, a spark-lite, matches, a white bandana, and have it all stored in a oilcamp space-saver cup in a mesh pouch from REI.
In another bottle I have two more pouches of water, two mylar blankets, Tacoma SAR tube tent, flat roll of duct tape, a few 2X2's, a few razor blades, a white bandanna, a few zip ties, matches/spark-lite, a pencil/some sheets of paper, combination whistle/compass/magnifing glass, and a zipka headlamp. Also in a oilcamp space-saver cup in a mesh pouch from REI.
These are in a backpack at work with a small first aid kit, a few cravats, change of clothes, Marmot PreCip jacket, boots, dust mask, goggles, leather gloves, SureFire G2, Petzl Duo, and two MRE's.
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#15716 - 05/10/03 01:40 PM
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Coincidently (or however you spell it <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />), we have an Aga and a steel kettle to boil with. We live in Somerset which is next door to Devon (used to be Devonshire). We we also use mole grips and I think ive got a pocket travel snakes and ladders lying round somewhere <img src="images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />. And of course I wear trousers, i'm not going to walk around in my underwear.
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