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#156263 - 11/24/08 10:06 PM Pics of my BOC and BOB
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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This is my Bug Out Cart. It's a Cabela's Super Mag Hauler. Top left is my tent. The ginormous brown thing next to it is my Slumberjack sleeping bag rated at -30F. Underneath that is a tub full of ammo, food, and assorted odds and ends. And at the very bottom is my sea bag holding clothes.




Side view.




This is my large ALICE pack. All my critical gear goes inside here, so that if for some reason I have to abandone the cart I won't be totally screwed. I'll take picks of the contents later.




Back view. I took this one so you can see that I've attached a canteen on either side. I stuck a solar flashlight in one of the loops so that it can be exposed to sunlight while I'm on the move.


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#156264 - 11/24/08 10:20 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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What's your total weight, pack included???
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#156268 - 11/24/08 10:42 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: OldBaldGuy]
Desperado Offline
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Uh, I am going to assume you plan on long term trips huh?

I have previously moved one of those ALICE large packs unwillingly, so I hope you are familiar with that thing and its weight. Either that or I could see getting an ATV like a MULE to cary that with.
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#156271 - 11/24/08 11:13 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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*whispers* It's sexy.....

My big concern about how it is packed is that the sleep system is exposed to the elements- I'd find a great big dry bag for it. Don't store in it, but stuff it in when needed, so it is protected and more compact. That, and no ground pad.

My other thought is the use of the ALICE- not a bad pack, but we can do better. Or were you planning on attaching the cart to it like a pulk harness?

Now that I've seen what it looks like, if I ever get the space to store such a thing, I will be building something simiiar.
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#156274 - 11/24/08 11:26 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: Desperado]
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"... previously moved one of those ALICE large packs unwillingly..."

Yup. I hate those things! Most uncomfortable pack I have ever lugged around...
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#156276 - 11/24/08 11:45 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: OldBaldGuy]
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Man, you just don't know what pain is until your ALICE Large weighs almost as much as you, plus an M24 and a CAR-15 (now known as M4) is dangling with you under a Huey/Blackhawk. Nothing like having to hump two weapon systems with dissimilar ammo + el pistola.

The eagle on the 101 patch wasn't screaming, he was groaning from the pain of all that was carried.

Too much weight and all the sudden you are inverted and that is where the story of dislocated shoulders began for me.

OBG PM on the way re RV Surge Suppressor.
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#156277 - 11/24/08 11:55 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: Desperado]
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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I don't know what the total weight is. I never weighed it. The pack is fairly heavy, and you'll know why when I post pics of what's inside it. The cart feels virtually weightless when I pull it. It's built for hauling deer, and what I have packed on it is much lighter than a deer. It looks heavier than it is because it's so bulky.

I'm aware of the issues with ALICE packs. I humped many a mile in bootcamp. But there's one thing about ALICE that no one can deny... she's tough. Throw that sucker off a cliff and when you find it at the bottom I bet it won't have a single tear.

I've always said plan for the worst, and the worst means you're out longer than you expected. I'm not one to count on someone else rescuing my ass because I only brought 3 days worth of supplies and they still can't find me after a month.

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#156278 - 11/25/08 12:06 AM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
Desperado Offline
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Good for you man. ALICE is tough, but I really would look into a way to modularize what's in ALICE. I've been preaching that to the folks I am helping build BOB's and they now understand. They each took my BOB and went for a two mile stroll on paved streets. Had to go get them in the truck.

You are probably also much more rural than I, as the cart would have LEO's on my tail ASAP here.

Nice thinking on the cart. Looks like a good way to haul wood from cut tree to truck in the hard to reach places.
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#156292 - 11/25/08 01:53 AM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: Desperado]
Jakam
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I related on another site about the ingenious carts I saw homeless folks make, to hook to their bicycles or haul around cans/bottles on foot. Made out of old bread trays and bike parts they found, I was always amazed at their perserverance.

I applaud the effort, and the dual wheels look like a good idea. I'm guessing, 50 pounds unloaded?

I know Cabela's uses puncture proof- Are the tires standard and easy to find? Since it's designed to hold 700 pounds, I would think tire wear may be an issue down the line.... At least if the axle is standard diameter you can find after market wheels, I presume.....

You get the game bag with it? It is canvas but could be waterproofed.......

I use a 2 wheel cart to move my kayak and everything needed for a beach trip, the problem with it is the tires and tubes can be difficult to find. But it can carry >150 lbs. if needed......




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#156312 - 11/25/08 03:24 AM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: ]
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I have the same type of cart, but with one set of wheels. I carry a sleeping bag, two person tent, ground pad, sleeping pad, duffle with clothes & personal items and food. I also have a Camelbak BFM with more important gear. Pulls and pushes nice, when I posted about my set up I was asked to try it over really rough ground, I didn't around the yard going over rail road ties rocks etc. Have you tried pulling it through the woods over down trees, large rocks or across a stream etc???
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#156322 - 11/25/08 11:13 AM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: Shadow_oo00]
CityBoyGoneCountry Offline
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Originally Posted By: Shadow_oo00
Have you tried pulling it through the woods over down trees, large rocks or across a stream etc???


My philosophy is, having the supplies you need, when you need them, is worth the effort it takes to bring them with you. The gear is held on by simple cambuckles. If I had to cross somewhat deep water, or get over a large fallen tree (assuming I couldn't just go around) there's no reason why I couldn't just undo the straps and carry each piece of gear, one at a time, over the obstacle and then strap it on again when everything is on the other side.

The only real restriction I've encountered is the width of the cart means I can't squeeze between tightly grouped trees. But there's always another way around. You just have to be willing to look for it.

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#156327 - 11/25/08 02:08 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
Jakam
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It's a great rig. Have you thought of a bicycle attachment?

You could haul a substantial anount of water with this as well, if you could find containers that stay on.

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#156328 - 11/25/08 02:24 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: ]
el_diabl0 Offline
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Sweet...You're now ready to go see The Road this weekend.

From the side, it kinda looks like a Segway. Do you have anything to cover it up with to keep out the rain?
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#156333 - 11/25/08 03:25 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: Shadow_oo00]
Lon Offline
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Registered: 11/14/08
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Loc: middle Tennessee
I think you have a really cool setup going there; it looks like a fine way to haul a lot of gear.
My first thoughts were "man, I should put together something like that". But, then, the other side of my personality kicked in, and I started thinking about whether I would want to call attention to myself in a "bug out" scenario. I am afraid that if it came time to get out, I would spend too much time trying to decide if I really wanted to haul that much stuff with relative ease, or if I really didn't want to call attention to myself as "the guy over there with the cart loaded with goodies".
So, there's a lot of things I like about what you've put together there ... but, my own character/personality has me struggling as to whether I would actually head out with it; or would I end up wasting more time trying to par it down to what I could carry on my back. (?)
I will have to try to think this through some more.

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#156337 - 11/25/08 03:55 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: Lon]
TS_Shawn Offline
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Registered: 03/11/08
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I'd have to hire a Sherpa to haul that.

Impressive, though. Thanks for posting the photos.

I've often thought those game haulers would be useful in such a situation.

And I've wondered what I could do with my golf pull-cart.

But I'm most inclined to start with my bikes and bike trailers (a Burley Nomad and Croozer dog trailer).

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#156339 - 11/25/08 04:16 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: TS_Shawn]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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"...golf pull-cart.."

In his book Worldwalk, Steven Newman used a golf pull cart to lug his gear across most of Australia. Seemed to work pretty well for him. Slightly smaller diameter wheels that the OP's cart tho...
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#156424 - 11/26/08 07:21 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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The first thing that popped into my head was either you are planning a 200 mile bug out on roads or you are bugging out with 8 kids.

Me, family of 4, 60 mile bug out. Medium alice, and everyone else with daypack.

How far is your destination, and over what terrain?

Shelter
Fire
Water
Clothes/Bag

all I consider critical and would make sure I have them in my pack. What is filling the large alice?



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#156561 - 11/28/08 10:42 PM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: jhlewis10]
TeacherRO Offline
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I wonder if you could do something similar with a bike trailer?

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#156578 - 11/29/08 04:30 AM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: CityBoyGoneCountry]
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Teacher--and others.. i was thinking the same thing myself.and when the going got too rough for even a mountain bike you could stash it away and go on foot with the trailer..and..when you could not make it with that backpack the rest of the way..sort of a three stage rocket effect--

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#156655 - 11/30/08 01:32 AM Re: Pics of my BOC and BOB [Re: CANOEDOGS]
Eugene Offline
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Just setup similar myself. Bought two mountain bikes off of craigslist and a burley trailer for the kids. Were getting setup to use them if needed. going to hit the trails around here once it warms up. Enough room in the back of the trailer for our bob's though I'll probably ride with my backpack on me to help distribute the weight some. I have a handheld gps and am ordering the handlebar mount so I can log our rides and see how far and how fast we go so I have a level set for bugging out.

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