[quote=Arney]Desperado, are these solo accidents or car vs bike accidents that you are seeing? I just ask because it's not just new riders that are a growing problem, but drivers who are not careful enough to watch for motorcycles.

Some of each, but the three I have witnessed / helped at were single vehicle. One was DWI + lack of experience + too much speed for curve. The other two lack of experience + too much speed for conditions.

Ones not witnessed (local paper) were combination of above and left turn vehicle into motorcycle right of way.

As far as bicycles, mostly car vs kid. While it is the motor vehicle operators responsibility to not hit kids on bikes, I do not see that adults are teaching kids to be safe like they used to.