its evident that he is really twisted. as for being superman, we don't know all the details do we?

i like the fire extinguisher idea. what type is the most effective for blinding? dry chemical?

about the will to fight: i think perhaps the toughest question is trying to weigh up the potentially worse consequences of between fighting and just giving in. i have heard the 'just give them what they want' advice probably a hundred times vis-a-vis muggings and robberies. being stabbed is not worth a few hundred dollars. i think this must have been in their minds, but then things then escalated...

Absolutely true. However, given that English isn't their first language, I have a little grace for them.

I like the fire extinguisher.

this is why banning self-defence is so fucking stupid and even criminal in itself.
i'm also thinking some fairly twisted things regarding the cops that just left because they couldn't find the house.
you can bet they wouldn't have just given up and left if they were looking for drugs or illegal weapons.

he might have used an inanimate object part of the time. adn the boyfriend might not have been raped himself per se, but being forced to watch someone you know go through that for an hour would be torture in its own rite.

I was once told by a man who frequented Australia to think of their police force as the local rugby team. That fact coupled with the anti-gun laws is very very unfortunate.

N'Kinda...Not really. When it comes to jokes I'm usually a little slow. Let me think.

I get it now.
So, in other words, we as a people will never give up our right to rise up armed and angry against a tyrannical government.
The day might soon come when we will have to choose to keep our backbones or surrender to being subjects.
As far as the joke, I for one am with the former, and will never be laughed at in that latter way. I'd rather fight to the death than concede that I should not be considered good enough to defend myself, my family, and my neighbors. The rugby team can go kiss a fish, and they've proved it time and time again!

Intersting, and sad, story.

Four people sexually assaulted by one guy with a knife.

Phone call for help "You need to help me."

"... traced to the apartment block but police officers could not find the exact unit..." How big was that apartment block? How many apartments?

As far as jumping to almost certain death, I would do it to avoid burning to death. But to avoid one person with a knife, I believe I would fight. Falling that distance will probably kill you, a knife might not. Or you at least might be able to get in a few good whacks on the badguy before he guts you...

I believe it was a relatively large complex. anyone have any thoughts on:

1) what of fire extinguisher makes the best weapon? dry chem? others?

2) how does one weigh up the fight vs passive strategies? sometimes fighting can make things much worse. unfortunately wasnt the case here i think

Eric, I don't care for his psychology.
The girl in this story has to start looking for a real MAN to love. This boy was a wrong choice.

If my wife or SO was going to be raped, and even if the bad guys were more than one, they are going to see the reality of the golden rule ( over my DEAD body). Giving in for a $100 is understandable, OTOH, my SO is NOT negotiable. Period.

Dandruff asking about fire extinguishder type. Well, dry chemical is best for fire and for bad guys. But if all you got was a CO2 (carbon dioxide) type, use it anyway.

And since those girls were students, dont understimate a blow on the head using one of them reference books. Some of those weigh a few pounds, but be careful WHEN you do it. He may be very vulnerable when he is "doing" the crime, but with a knife in his hand close to the victim, both persons maybe harmed.

I guesss best time is when he is pulling down his pants. I amnot joking here, he will need both hands for the task and holding knife.

Mace maybe illegal but perfume is not.
Spray it in his eyes and see what happens

How about window cleaners or any other spray cleaner.
Just aim to the eyes and then good luck with the law.