Nice call on the 4" inquiry rod, that sounds like the size I am looking for. I will send them an email.

Jim that LMF BBQ models looks just like the Army rod, just with a larger handle for backyard ease of use. I could probably saw that down or maybe even hollow out the handle and put a kit inside it! I do have an REI about 30 mins from me and I am a member.

Thanks for the base gear link also, $16 seems fair.

I emailed the author of a book where I saw a nice 4" X 1/2" plain rod and we'll see if he gets back to me on a supplier. I'll report back with my findings.