At some point preparations cease to be this intellectual artifact outside of our daily reality. I have my outdoor stuff and, like Don earthquakes and fire are the realities in our cities. Civil unrest in our nieghborhoods of Ventura county would likely be caffiene addicted yuppies finding the local Starbucks closed <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> My rifle has a fascinating eggnest down the barrel. I am hoping to see what emerges before a black helicopter hovers over my apt again. Teotwawki, or whatever Kokopelli's brother's name is, is not a concern. The story of the Spartans should be remembered. They conquered a larger greek society ( the Helots,) and became a warrior society to preserve their status. Thats fine if you want to spend 24/7 as a slave to the slaves. I prefer Ouzo and stuffed grape leaves <img src="images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />