#149969 - 09/23/08 10:12 PM
A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the place!
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Old Hand
Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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It was in the afternoon, I heard my neighbor crying so I checked out in the hall if she was okay. There was a large puddle of black oil all over the stairway in the appartement building. She saw an old man with a baseball cap drop a red can of oil and running away but unfortunately my neighbor panicked and she took the can in her hands ruining the fingerprints. She doesn't have a clear description of the man. We immediately called the police and a firefighter truck came. They poured peat moss all over the stairway and everything to clean the place. The main entrance door doesn't have a lock. We asked the owner many times to install a lock.
If the pyronamiac had the time to light the oil puddle on fire I don't know if the small BC extinctor would have been sufficient and worked on oil based fire and I never used one. The odor was strong but I guess it's not really a hazard and we open doors for air flow. How can one prepare for such a weird emergency? My Bug-Out bag is not really put together yet...
My neighbors are worried the guy would come back during night and accomplish his weird impulse. I asked them if their smoke alarms are working. Do you know something about pyromaniac psychological profile and if he would come back soon or anything?
Frankie
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#149971 - 09/23/08 10:27 PM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the place!
[Re: Frankie]
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Old Hand
Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
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Arson fires are all over the 5 o'clock news down here in the US: see if the Fire Department wants to get out a story on this pyro (make sure they agree this was attempted arson). I'm no psychologist, but he'd be less likely to come back to the exact scene of the crime if there was publicity out there about this.
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#149978 - 09/23/08 11:46 PM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the place!
[Re: Paul810]
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Old Hand
Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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If you get the chance, try to light a small puddle oil on fire. It's very difficult, and if it does light it seems to go right out. If it was just oil or fuel oil (diesel) I wouldn't have been as worried. Now if it was gas/naptha/Bacardi 151/ect I'd be much more concerned. That is right, I did my research... Well maybe he didn't want to put fire on the building. It was very slippery and there was oil everywhere in the starway. Its very strange, I don't know what this guy had in mind. Frankie
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#149991 - 09/24/08 02:37 AM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the place!
[Re: Frankie]
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Registered: 06/08/05
Posts: 503
Loc: Quebec City, Canada
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Maybe the guy was just doing an oil change on his old car, and dropped the oil container at some point, and just ran because he was afraid he was going to get billed for the cleanup?
Just a thought...
Pyromaniacs usually just use gasoline (oh wait, with such high gas prices... lol!).
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#150007 - 09/24/08 07:56 AM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the place!
[Re: Paul810]
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Registered: 05/23/08
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Loc: Somerset UK
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Arson may not have been the intention if the liquid was lubricating oil. As others point out, lubricant is hard to ignite, perhaps the intention was simply vandalism/messing up the place. Or as suggested above it might possibly have been an accident.
Diesel fuel is hard to ignite unless soaked into a porous surface such as carpet, when it ignites easliy. (a firefighter once told me that proffesional arsonists use diesel or kerosene, never gasoline. Diesel or kerosene burn fiercly and will often destroy the building, and murder any occupants. Gasoline is liable to explode and kill the arsonist)
I would agree that the street door should be locked.
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#150012 - 09/24/08 01:34 PM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the place!
[Re: SARbound]
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Registered: 09/19/03
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Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Maybe the guy was just doing an oil change on his old car, and dropped the oil container at some point, and just ran because he was afraid he was going to get billed for the cleanup?
Just a thought... That is impossible, it's a two story building and the oil was wall to wall on every steps and he also carefully put oil on another section of stairway leading to the appartements in the basement. And when my neighbor arrived from the basement (doing laundery) she saw him pouring it then run away quickly. Actually the police thought it's a mix, like there was another substance mixed in the oil. Thanks for the suggestion about a Simplex style lock, I'll suggest it to the owner and my neighbors. Frankie
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#150031 - 09/24/08 05:45 PM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the pla
[Re: Frankie]
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 5163
Loc: W. WA
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A small fire extinguisher is only good for about 15 seconds.
A B/C extinguisher is useful for flammable liquids and organic solvents (the B part), and electrical fires (the C part).
I would stay in contact with the police and fire departments and ask if they have made any discoveries in relation to this incident.
Could this have been an irate previous tenant?
If your landlord doesn't want to install a lock on the door, pin him down and insist on knowing WHY he doesn't want one (maybe as a group). I'm not familiar with lawsuit laws in Canada, but if he takes no steps to prevent a repeat episode, he may be setting himself up for a major personal loss.
Are there any other issues going on with this place? If so, could they be connected?
Sue
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#150033 - 09/24/08 06:02 PM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the pla
[Re: Susan]
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I am not a P.P.o.W.
Old Hand
Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
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See if He will put in a loch if the tenants buy it. Get yourself a few extra fire extinguishers, and make sure the smoke alarm is up to snuff. You may want to install a smoke alarm by the apartment door. Plan on egress besides through the apartment door if needed. Up your renters insurance coverage asap.
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#150065 - 09/24/08 11:45 PM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the pla
[Re: Stu]
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Registered: 11/04/05
Posts: 125
Loc: Mid-Atlantic
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Be sure you have some safe way out besides your apartment door. Get a rope ladder, for instance.
And look for a new place to live.
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#150077 - 09/25/08 12:52 AM
Re: A crazy pyromaniac poured oil all over the pla
[Re: Susan]
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Old Hand
Registered: 09/19/03
Posts: 736
Loc: Montréal, Québec, Canada
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Are there any other issues going on with this place? If so, could they be connected? There are many freaks as in all big cities. There was a time when a homeless would sleep and [censored] inside the building. I'm not aware of other particular issues... Frankie
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