I guess what I'm talking about is a "toasted crash." We never did find out why the heli went down. All I do know is that I don't feel that the crew had a soft landing. In 1999 we had a medivac crew went down on a return trip home and all was lost. This crew had flown many pts. to level one trauma centers for use and they were an excellent crew, pilot and nurses. <br> I guess my main concern is I place my pts. on these rides to help them and I'm afraid the statistics are going to catch up to us. <br> It's about time for operation green sweep, marijuana raids, and there is choppers all over the place spotting the patches for the ground crews. These cowboys get so happy they'll top your trees for you. <br> Thanks for all the input, Rick<br>Being challenged in life is inevitable, being defeated is optional.<br><br>