Remember, it's for usage that will often be 3rd or lower world countries, IMHO, Better to have too much water purification, than too little.

It is a refugee kit for 10 people in an nondetermined locale. 1 gallon per day per person for 90 days sounds about reasonable to me. Overall, I think it makes a nice base bug-out-box, and it worth replicating at a smaller scale as your own personal refugee kit. A 4-person version stuffed in an Action Packer tub would be a handy thing to have to throw in the vehicle in a bug out situation. Sure, it is not complete, but it is non-perishable and a good base.

Great idea - does it have instructions?

Replace, no. But the places they are talking about using this are literally GONE. Other than a few neighborhoods and few small towns in Katrina, the US really doesn't have a recent history of that. When more than have the buildings in a community are gone or untrustworthy, it takes more than a few weeks to get back to "normal" by anyone's terms.

After reading that Shelter Boxes are being sent to Japan, I decided to bump this thread.

Here's the link to ShelterBox USA. Seems like a highly practical kit, not like some of the junk I've seen in other prepackaged kits.

BTW, I want one of those wood burning Frontier Stoves.

http://www.shelterboxusa.org/about.php?page=9

I think whoever put the blurb in about burning own paint must have misread the information from the Optimus web site (in the UK Shelterbox site, it clearly shows an Optimus stove):

• White gasoline is generally a clean and energetic fuel suitable for use in liquid fuel stoves. Availability is good in North America. In Europe and other parts of the world, availability varies. Usually, you can find white gasoline in Outdoor shops. An alternative to white gasoline is heptanes that usually can be found in paint shops, hardware stores and similar.

Not a tragic flaw IMHO, and I still like the idea.

Sounds an excellent kit.
I would expect that the small woodstove would be especialy welcome by those afflicted by the Japanese disaster.
There would appear to be ample scrap wood from destroyed buildings to use as fuel.
Liquid fuels of all sorts seem to be virtually unobtainable, and of course the wood stove heats the room or shelter to a greater extent than a camping cookstove.
It might be worth sending flexible flue pipe, so as to permit use of the wood stove indoors.
Many refugees seem to sheltering in buildings that are weathertight, but still very cold as no heating fuel is available.
The tents may be less needed ? Food, drinking water, blankets, and heat sources seem to be the main needs.

I noticed that too. The Optimus stove in question is supposedly dual-fuel (gas/kerosene). And some of the kerosene available in the third world (for example) is said to be really terrible, low-grade stuff.

A kerosene stove could likely handle paint thinner (even used and filtered).

And I've noticed that old oil paint will separate into pigment and a clear, oily liquid. If you could filter this stuff and maybe thin it out somewhat, it might work.

dougwalkabout,

Those Frontier stoves are available from camping solutions here:

http://www.campingsolutions.co.uk/gallery/


They also make the Nomad stove which is probably the stove shown on the UK site. In the past I have seen the "paint" comment concerning these stoves - but I don't know if it is from camping solutions or some other place.

Would be great (if VERY expensive) if they would import to the US. There are however several portable wood stoves available in the US. The best was the WWII field wood/coal/oil/diesel unit. I used one for several winters, but the fellow who owned it would NOT part with it.

Respectfully,

Jerry

The Hunter SHA Arctic Space Heater is available here for $170 (which replaced the US mil Yukon M1950).

http://www.gr8gear.com/catalog/Camping-O...sue-Hunter-SHA/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GoXJiTuVHI