I have read many accounts where even indigenous peoples sometimes spent a miserable time unable to get a fire going. The 'primative' practitioners are very good with their various friction devices. They forget native peoples carried live embers in several carry modes and previously gathered tinder. Oetzi carried a live ember, flints and gathered mosses ( toilet paper or tinder <img src="images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> .) There is a very dangerous myth about 'Nature's Bounty.' Sometimes the caribou shift migration routes, that healing plant in the survival book is nowhere to be found and the biggest, black, spec ops knife will only produce sweat and wet wood.