#147799 - 09/07/08 06:55 PM
Seconds to react! Would you survive?
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Do you have what it takes to survive this risk? The victim is 6'3" and 270 lbs. The attacker is a dog on a leash. http://www.idahostatesman.com/localnews/story/494978.html
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#147803 - 09/07/08 07:28 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
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I have to say that I think I would stand a better then average chance. The wife was a K-9 cop and being a deputy myself, I was able to help at practices and training. I learned how to "catch" a dog as well as some breakaway manuvers. I am also armed 85% of the time should it come to that. Having patted myself on the back and expressed my overly large ego / conciete (? spelliing) I would not EVER want to be on the real world end of an aggressing dog. There is a reason the Police and Military use them. I feel bad for the everyone involved in the article. Feel bad for guy that got bit (for obvious reasons), feel bad for the owner knowing that her dog has a good chance of being destroyed and is probably facing some civil litigation. Feel bad for the dog cause it will probably be deemed a vicious dog and live in a crate and/or be chained and muzzled for the duration of its life. It is a bad deal all the way around.
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#147815 - 09/07/08 08:47 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
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I think it is a classic case of he goofed and now wants to blame the dog. Many dogs will react badly if you tower over them and then reach for or touch them. It is a dominance thing. The guy wasn't a pack [family] member. A stranger not introduced.
To approach a strange dog have the owner [pack leader] introduce you. Always move very slowly. Approach dog at or below eye level. Allow the dog to sniff the back of your hand. Oder is very important to dogs. Then if and only if you are accepted. Then you can pet. Just don't grab for the throat area.
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#147822 - 09/07/08 09:47 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
[Re: Raspy]
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The old man was a vet in rural upstate NY for fifty years or so, starting im 1937. He figured he got cat scratched once a day, dog bitten once a week, and horse/cow kicked once a month. He didn't count injuries inflicted by deer, goats, sheep, monkeys, turtles, squirrels, chinchillas, poultry, or the elephant with the infected ear that traveled with the circus that came to town. He did unpleasant things to dogs every day, seven days a week. Never got bitten in the tummy.Ever. Something is not being said here.
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#147823 - 09/07/08 09:51 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
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On the other hand, this does show the protective quality of a decent layer of abdominal fat. I now treasure mine more than ever. Might even try to build it up a little, just in case. You never know...
Everyone should believe in something; I believe I will have another beer.
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#147827 - 09/07/08 10:18 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
[Re: nursemike]
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The old man was a vet in rural upstate NY for fifty years or so, starting im 1937. He figured he got cat scratched once a day, dog bitten once a week, and horse/cow kicked once a month. He didn't count injuries inflicted by deer, goats, sheep, monkeys, turtles, squirrels, chinchillas, poultry, or the elephant with the infected ear that traveled with the circus that came to town. He did unpleasant things to dogs every day, seven days a week. Never got bitten in the tummy.Ever. Something is not being said here. What do you suspect? Sexual harassment?
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#147831 - 09/07/08 10:29 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
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I stopped a vehicle for a traffic violation one day many years ago. I exited my patrol vehicle, the violator opened his door, and a huge shepard jumped out and charged me. The hammer was coming back on my .357 when the violator tackled his dog. Luckily I was able to stop that hammer, or I would have drilled them both. I figure I can outdraw most critters, and if I can't, my built in game plan is to feed them my left forearm then gut shoot them 'bout six times with .40SW.
Don't even get me started on pit bulls...
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#147835 - 09/07/08 10:42 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
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Registered: 07/23/08
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I have zero training with aggressive dogs but like most of us on here have walked through possible scenarios based on what I have seen and heard.
OBG above laid out the scenario the way I have played it out in my mind; give an arm and then start ripping eyes or genitals. At the very least attack the belly.
As a cyclist I have been chased by several loud, barking dogs. I suppose you could call them aggressive but I don't stick around long enough to see if they just want a lick.
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#147843 - 09/07/08 11:09 PM
Re: Seconds to react! Would you survive?
[Re: OldBaldGuy]
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I stopped a vehicle for a traffic violation one day many years ago. I exited my patrol vehicle, the violator opened his door, and a huge shepard jumped out and charged me. The hammer was coming back on my .357 when the violator tackled his dog. Luckily I was able to stop that hammer, or I would have drilled them both. I figure I can outdraw most critters, and if I can't, my built in game plan is to feed them my left forearm then gut shoot them 'bout six times with .40SW.
Don't even get me started on pit bulls... Great reflexes OBG! My Dad took out 2 Dobermans in WW2 with an old "Tommy Gun". The SS Officer he was arresting pretended not to speak English until the Tommy Gun ended up under his chin. He was real cooperative then.
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