#147406 - 09/04/08 07:03 PM
Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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Carpal Tunnel
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Four different lightweight homemade backpacking stoves covered here Comparison of cheap DIY alcohol stoves Fun to build too - maybe add one to various kits? Teacher
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#147407 - 09/04/08 07:15 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: TeacherRO]
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I have also been doing some research on alcohol stoves and found this sight to be the most helpful for me. Partly because the site is not trying to sell or promote anything. Purely informative. I talked with Rantor and ended up getting the same stove he purchaced for his DW. One the topics I found most interesting is the fuels that could be used and the positives / negatives of each type. If you want to check it out, here is the site Zen and the Art of the Alcohol Stove
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#147427 - 09/04/08 11:31 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Another source for stove plans is Wings THE HOME-MADE STOVE ARCHIVES. 28 plans plus links.
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#147442 - 09/05/08 12:10 AM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: Raspy]
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I have made just about every stove on the wings site. All work, some much better/worse than others. But I will stick with my "off white box stove" as the best of the bunch...
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#147460 - 09/05/08 04:03 AM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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I have made 7 or 8 homemade alcohol stoves, and while it’s fun, I find a lot of the homemade stoves very fragile. They are designed to be super light to keep backpacking weight down. For an alcohol stove that is durable and can handle some use and abuse the Trangia burner is my choice. It also has the advantage of being able to be transported with fuel in it. Also other alcohol stoves you have to just let it run dry to put it away. Trangia can be put out and the fuel in it saved for the next meal. I found the complete military Trangia kits at a local army surplus store for $3.50, they were closing them out. The normal price for the complete stove & mess kit is only $12.00. A great deal at either price.
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#147575 - 09/05/08 11:21 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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Yup. Very well in fact, depending of course on the amount of water, outside temp, winds, altitude, etc...
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#147576 - 09/05/08 11:29 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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This may make me sound profoundly ignorant but, can a homemade boil water? Alcohol has ½ the btu output for the same amount of white gas (gasoline) so they are not as hot burning as a normal stove. But they are more then enough to do the job. You can cook on them just fine. I regularly use one to cook eggs, bacon soups the complete dinners you find at grocery stores. The problem with alcohol stoves in for the most part they have no simmer and you can’t turn them down. That and at most they run for 15-min on a fill up. But this is normally more then enough. If not just pour some more alcohol in it and keep going. Alcohol flames are hard to see in daylight, so make sure it’s out before you refill it.
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#147579 - 09/05/08 11:46 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: BobS]
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Actually, the Trangia "simmer ring" cap works pretty well. Comes will new burners, don't know if its in all the older mess kits.
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#147619 - 09/06/08 06:22 AM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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I have the White Box Stove, think its great. Its a blow torch but with some practice you get the measurements right for fuel. Added kelvar wick to the outside to prime. Also picked up a small kettle for water which I use at home to so it's worth the investment.
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#149287 - 09/17/08 02:17 AM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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Seems like a great idea for a bob or home ( outdoor) emergency use - as alcohol is fairly stable and widely available.
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#149317 - 09/17/08 12:36 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: TeacherRO]
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Okay, if not for backpacking, then this is the type of alcohol stove I would prefer: http://www.swego.com/mall/stove_1500.asp
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#149322 - 09/17/08 01:06 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: benjammin]
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Nice looking stove. I wonder how much flame control that knob gives???
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#149336 - 09/17/08 02:01 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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It should be at least as good as a Coleman control knob.
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#149342 - 09/17/08 02:13 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: benjammin]
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Cool...
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#149395 - 09/17/08 08:04 PM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
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That and at most they run for 15-min on a fill up. But this is normally more then enough. If not just pour some more alcohol in it and keep going. Alcohol flames are hard to see in daylight, so make sure it’s out before you refill it. Last summer I recall reading that a Boy Scout was killed when trying to refill an alcohol stove that hadn't been allowed to cool down enough (or may have still been lit). Apparently the flame caused the alcohol container to ignite resulting in lethal burns to the boy. Very sad. Be careful when refilling! I recently purchased a White Box Stove and the little starter kit from freezerbagcooking.com. Haven't had a chance to use it yet. Soon I hope.
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#149437 - 09/18/08 01:14 AM
Re: Tiny, cheap alcohol stoves
[Re: KenK]
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You're gonna love that White Box Stove...
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