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#145623 - 08/24/08 01:18 PM Re: Speaking of precious metals... [Re: ironraven]
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<bows>

Thank you, sir. Good thing that the only stuff _I_ hoard isn't illegal yet...and God help us if any of it ever is.

Then again, is some states it is illegal to have more than two weeks' worth of food...If by some accident I should ever win the lottery, I think I'm going to have to make a country smile

Back in the '80s a guy did that with an offshore oil platform. And we have the server farm island off Britain. At least there's precedent.
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#145625 - 08/24/08 01:42 PM Re: Speaking of precious metals... [Re: NeighborBill]
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Originally Posted By: billy.guttery
Then again, is some states it is illegal to have more than two weeks' worth of food...

What?!? Which states?

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#145742 - 08/25/08 12:22 AM Re: Speaking of precious metals... [Re: Grouch]
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From my research (on states west of the Mississippi) all states have some kind of anti-hoarding laws on the books (usually only enforceable during a state of emergency). Two weeks' food was the magical number I kept running up against, probably the result of some federal study.

The only really weird one I remember (this has been a few years), was Hawaii, where a one week rule was enforceable in normal times (not in the actual legislation, but in committee notes attached):


128-28 Forfeitures. The forfeiture of any property unlawfully possessed, pursuant to paragraph (2) of section 128-8, may be adjudged upon conviction of the offender found to be unlawfully in possession of the same, where no person other than the offender is entitled to notice and hearing with respect to the forfeiture, or the forfeiture may be enforced by an appropriate civil proceeding brought in the name of the State. The district courts and circuit courts shall have concurrent jurisdiction of the civil proceedings. Any property forfeited as provided in this section may be ordered destroyed, or may be ordered delivered for public use to such agency as shall be designated by the governor or the governor's representative, or may be ordered sold, wholly or partially, for the account of the State. [L 1951, c 268, pt of 2; RL 1955, 359-25; HRS 128- 28; am imp L 1984, c 90, 1]"

Enjoy the paranoia, I know I have.

If your state or area is ever declared a "disaster" by the governer you are fully under the jurisdiction of the federal gubmint...and FEMA smile


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#145750 - 08/25/08 01:01 AM Re: Speaking of precious metals... [Re: NeighborBill]
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Originally Posted By: billy.guttery
If your state or area is ever declared a "disaster" by the governer you are fully under the jurisdiction of the federal gubmint...and FEMA smile

I won't say what I'm thinking because I don't want black helicopters to swoop down on me. eek

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#145758 - 08/25/08 01:26 AM Re: Speaking of precious metals... [Re: Grouch]
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It's not the black helicopters you have to worry about....

....just the green ones.
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#145759 - 08/25/08 01:33 AM Re: Speaking of precious metals... [Re: NeighborBill]
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Well, I witnessed up close how FEMA operates (post-Katrina) so I'm pretty confident that I can pull the wool over their eyes when it comes to my stash.

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#146753 - 08/31/08 01:37 AM Re: Speaking of precious metals... [Re: Grouch]
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Yep it is true. Come disaster the government can take your preparedness stocks and issue them to the public. Of course, they are likely to take care of their own family needs from your stash first.

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