#143670 - 08/11/08 03:40 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: Fitzoid]
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Journeyman
Registered: 05/28/06
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I had standardized on CR123A because of their advantages. The main reason that push me towards CR123A is the leakage of normal batteries in devices.
Once there was a power failure and I was left in the dark. I had various sizes Mag lite (about 6) and none of them works. It was not due to flat battery but leakages and I had to dispose of all Mag. I also had other devices that were ruined by battery leakages.
With an inventory of 200~300 pieces of CR123A at home. I could easily carry several dozens of CR123A on my trips. So shops not selling CR123A is not an issue for me.
I am always on the lookout for CR123A devices, do let me know if you are aware of any GPS, walkie talkie that use CR123A. Thanks.
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#143672 - 08/11/08 03:46 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: firefly99]
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Enthusiast
Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 289
Loc: WI, MA, and NYC
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200-300 CR123s at home?? Yikes!!
You do know they have been known to explode, especially when dropped or partially discharged batteries are mixed together in a device? (The least discharged battery will start charging the other battery. This is bad, as regular 123s are not meant to be recharged.)
I don't know what the current TSA ruling is, but they were banned from air travel in any great number.
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#143676 - 08/11/08 03:54 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: Eugene]
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Registered: 02/08/08
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Loc: Toledo Ohio
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I know about the discharge rate. I have a problem with them just pulling them off the charger and putting them in my camera right away and take pictures that day. Less then 20 pictures and they are dead. They should last longer then that. Energizer Company has some problems with the design. Energizer in my opinion screwed me, I won’t buy anything else from, they have cute commercials with the bunny, but it’s a farce.
I had a similar problem and I started researching and it turned out my charger wasn't fully charging the batteries, so you started out ay way less that full capacity and then self discharged the rest away. Mine was a raoyvac ps4 that I wasted $30 on when I could have paid $40 for a decent charger. Never thought about the charger not working right, after all it’s somewhat new and made for NIMH batteries. I have a few older chargers made for NiCad batteries but I think the charge rate is wrong for NiMH. But then I don’t use any of the Energizers I have so it’s no big thing if they don’t charge right. But I don’t want them to leak and destroy the device I have them in. I will see if my brother has a NiMH charger and barrow it to see if it charges them better then the one I have.
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#143690 - 08/11/08 04:40 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: Fitzoid]
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Journeyman
Registered: 05/28/06
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You do know they have been known to explode, especially when dropped or partially discharged batteries are mixed together in a device? (The least discharged battery will start charging the other battery. This is bad, as regular 123s are not meant to be recharged.)
I don't know what the current TSA ruling is, but they were banned from air travel in any great number. I am only aware of 2 ~ 3 incidents that CR123A exploded. This is against the backdrop of millions of CR123A batteries in use worldwide. All the explosions are due to a) inferior batteries (without built-in safety feature) b) mixing new & old(nearly exhausted) batteries in devices that draw a big current from the batteries. TSA ban the shipping of CR123A in cartons. But carrying 1~2 dozen spare for your electronic devices should not be an issue.
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#143700 - 08/11/08 05:12 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: firefly99]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
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I am always on the lookout for CR123A devices, do let me know if you are aware of any GPS, walkie talkie that use CR123A. Thanks.
There is the issue. I'm sure CR123A's are a fine standard is your gear consists on only flashlights. But if you have flashlights, radios, navigation, cameras, etc then you need somehting that can work in all of them.
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#143714 - 08/11/08 05:47 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: Eugene]
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Journeyman
Registered: 05/28/06
Posts: 58
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I am always on the lookout for CR123A devices, do let me know if you are aware of any GPS, walkie talkie that use CR123A. Thanks.
There is the issue. I'm sure CR123A's are a fine standard is your gear consists on only flashlights. But if you have flashlights, radios, navigation, cameras, etc then you need somehting that can work in all of them. Sorry, I had enough of battery leakages to last me a lifetime. So standardizing on AA is out of the question for me. Currently, I am still struck with AA based GPS & walkie talkie.
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#143718 - 08/11/08 05:56 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: Fitzoid]
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Paranoid?
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Registered: 10/30/05
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I'm trying to standardize now, attempting to go all AA or AAA so that I can eventually use rechargeable eneloop batteries with a foldable solar setup.
I do have a large store of Kirkland AA and AAA batteries from Costco for emergencies until I can get to the point I mentioned above. I also have a couple packs of Energizer E2 Lithium batteries set aside for my flashlight.
Standardization is one of the reasons I changed out flashlights. My Old Pelican used CR123a's, which are generally harder to find and definitely more expensive than the AA's that my Fenix Uses.
Devices that I have that use AA's: Fenix L2D CE Eton Grundig FR200 Mini Maglite LED in the FAK Energizer Energi-To-Go Cell Charger
Devices that I have that use AAAs: Arc AAA Premium
Those are just my BOB, PSK and FAK devices. When I start listing 'puter mice, remote controls and all the other gadgets I have around my home and use every day, it just makes sense for me to buy rechargeable double and triple A's and to have alkalines and lithiums as backup.
Right now the MagLite LED 4D that I keep in my car is the only emergency light that I have that is out the small cell category... But I have that one for more reasons than the light it provides... LOL
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#143721 - 08/11/08 06:12 PM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: Nicodemus]
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Registered: 08/23/05
Posts: 289
Loc: WI, MA, and NYC
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Right now the MagLite LED 4D that I keep in my car is the only emergency light that I have that is out the small cell category... But I have that one for more reasons than the light it provides... LOL I hear nobody carries a MagLite D cell for the light it (doesn't) put out.
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#143780 - 08/12/08 12:41 AM
Re: Batteries -- when do you standardize?
[Re: firefly99]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 12/26/02
Posts: 2997
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I am always on the lookout for CR123A devices, do let me know if you are aware of any GPS, walkie talkie that use CR123A. Thanks.
There is the issue. I'm sure CR123A's are a fine standard is your gear consists on only flashlights. But if you have flashlights, radios, navigation, cameras, etc then you need somehting that can work in all of them. Sorry, I had enough of battery leakages to last me a lifetime. So standardizing on AA is out of the question for me. Currently, I am still struck with AA based GPS & walkie talkie. I have only ever had rayovac's leak but primarily use eneloops now. Being 'stuck' with AA based gps is why I don't bother with 123's, if I can swap as needed then its not standardized.
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