#143394 - 08/09/08 08:22 AM
Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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Geez, just when you thought you had the bears all figured out, along come the two legged cretins... http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/08/pot.eradication/index.html So, when it's no longer safe to take a walk in the woods, where you supposed to go hiking? It certainly gives "Smokey the Bear" a whole new meaning...
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#143395 - 08/09/08 09:17 AM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
[Re: Fitzoid]
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Legalize it and cartels won't be able to profit from it. Problem solved.
The part I find interesting is that they found 10,000 plants. Anyone with a backyard vegetable garden can guess how much work would be involved in planting, caring for, and harvesting that many plants. If they can pull that off in a national forest, you can do anything in a national forest.
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#143396 - 08/09/08 09:22 AM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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but wait, there's more: pot if you go out in the woods today, you're in for a big surprise! last week, my back yard.
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#143400 - 08/09/08 11:16 AM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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The size is impressive, but other than that, this isn't news. State and national forests and parks are often used for grow operations and processing labs, at least the more remote parts.
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#143403 - 08/09/08 12:19 PM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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#143405 - 08/09/08 01:03 PM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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I read years ago that it was popular for people to grow it along railroad tracks and under high tension towers. These areas are easily accessible being in and close to cities and not heavily patrolled.
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#143410 - 08/09/08 01:23 PM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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Unfortunately that is not new news. There is an area in Northern CA that has been called the Emerald Triangle for years, thanks to the pot growers. CA law enforcement has their annual CAMP (Campaign Against Marijuana Planters) program, aimed specifically at the growers in the boonies. A friend of mine started the High Sierra Volunteer Trailcrew years ago, primarily to clear trails in the NF. Now they spend a huge amount of time clearing pot farms in the forests. (Goin' on their trips is a hoot, by the way, if anyone is interested). We once has a US Navy pilot report a huge area of marijuana growing in the center of a full section of field corn. The stuff is everywhere...
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#143421 - 08/09/08 04:41 PM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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This has been going on for decades. I remember back in the 70s coming across a wild pot farm in the cascades on a late summer recon for hunting season. When we realized where we were, we beat feet outta there.
I also recall my uncle telling me about farmers growing it in the corn fields.
That wildweed flower, it grows anywhere!!!
I think it is far too late for legalization to make any difference where it is being grown illegally, whether on public or private land. Even if the feds changed the posession/use legalities, you can be darned sure it would still be heavily regulated. There's still a lotta folks making 'shine these days, despite the fact that booze is legal to drink, but not legal to make for distribution unless you are licensed.
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#143422 - 08/09/08 04:54 PM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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That it's going on at this scale is news to me. I had no idea pot farming had become this organized. People may plant and then come back to tend and harvest, but leaving 24x7 guards with automatic weapons is news to me. (Take a look at some of the numbers in the article.) I don't think even Harold and Kumar would want to come across this crop...  (If you don't get the reference, ask your youngins...)
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#143423 - 08/09/08 04:58 PM
Re: Cartels growing pot in U.S. National Forests??
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This has been going on for decades. I remember back in the 70s coming across a wild pot farm in the cascades on a late summer recon for hunting season. When we realized where we were, we beat feet outta there.
I also recall my uncle telling me about farmers growing it in the corn fields.
That wildweed flower, it grows anywhere!!!
I think it is far too late for legalization to make any difference where it is being grown illegally, whether on public or private land. Even if the feds changed the posession/use legalities, you can be darned sure it would still be heavily regulated. There's still a lotta folks making 'shine these days, despite the fact that booze is legal to drink, but not legal to make for distribution unless you are licensed. Ben, I was glad you brought up the moonshine analogy because that is exactly the image that comes to my mind when I hear of folks growing their own "cash crop". I agree if legalized, there would still be folks growing it where ever they could, but if it were legally available wouldn't that bring down the price hence the violence associated with defending one's crop plus the need to hide it in a national (inconvenient) forest? I don't know the answer to that question but it's something that comes to mind.
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