#143312 - 08/08/08 08:08 PM
Anyone used the Stapler?
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#143324 - 08/08/08 09:23 PM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
[Re: Nishnabotna]
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in the ad they show an "arrow" wound, nicely stapled shut, on an unknown, unnamed part of someone's anatomy.
unless it were "only a flesh wound" - can an arrow wound only be a flesh wound? - i would hesitate to close ANY puncture wound unless irrigated with a lot more water than what you typically have to spare out in the woods.
and if you do carry such a thing what are chances the wound would be in a location that you could staple shut yourself? which now begs the question: if not you, who? trust them, do you?
for me, i'll stick with tincture of benzoin and steristrips. with a nice 4 x 4 + gauze wrap to protect, keep clean and absorb any further drainage.
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#143327 - 08/08/08 09:44 PM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
[Re: bsmith]
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for me, i'll stick with tincture of benzoin and steristrips. with a nice 4 x 4 + gauze wrap to protect, keep clean and absorb any further drainage. Yeah. Me, too. Now, for my canine hiking buddy, where he have a hard time leaving steristrips and bandage alone, maybe. But he's gonna have to carry it in his pack. Jeff PS Are there really a lotta folks out there getting shot with arrows?
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#143340 - 08/08/08 11:03 PM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
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Not a lot of people getting shot, but a lot of bow hunters having clumsy moment and sticking or slicing themselves.
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#143344 - 08/08/08 11:08 PM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
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Not a lot of people getting shot, but a lot of bow hunters having clumsy moment and sticking or slicing themselves. Oh, I hadn't thought of that. Doh! I've seen a large number of people get shot with guns, but never one with an arrow, even though bow-hunting is popular 'round heah. Jeff
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#143346 - 08/08/08 11:15 PM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
[Re: Nishnabotna]
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I have been stapled a few times, but was sound asleep when the dr did it. I suspect that a staple would hurt a lot less than a stitch, done in the boonies. But I am not a big fan of closing a serious wound until it has been properly cleaned. Properly, not just washed out a little bit...
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#143349 - 08/08/08 11:27 PM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
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But I am not a big fan of closing a serious wound until it has been properly cleaned. Properly, not just washed out a little bit... Nothing like closing in an infection, hmmm? I've seen that a few times, ugh! Like a lot of tools, staplers are fairly easy to use, but knowing when and when not to use them is the real trick. Jeff
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#143357 - 08/08/08 11:49 PM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
[Re: Blast]
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Widely used in ER's, mostly for scalp wounds cuz the scars are substantially larger than a good suture job-or on hockey players faces, where aesthetics are of no consequence. Simple, fool-proof, but not idiot resistant, still, if you scew up, you just take the staple out and try again...15 times. Surgeons practice suturing lacerations on raw chicken parts, so you could get 2 and practice. Closing the wound helps it heal faster, but the bleeding has to be controlled before wound closure-the anti-coagulated guy who wrote the product review may be disappointed when he tries it. Some docs will close a wound that is eight hours old, some won't, so if the ER is a few hours away, might be okay to wait.If the wound is closed over an infection, an abscess develops As noted above, best not to close arrow wounds, animal bites, or other punctures. Note: do not attempt to remove skin staples with a standard office staple remover-the results are way worse than the original injury. Before there were disposable skin staplers, there were hog rings These were used in similar applications on swine, wire cages, upholstery. The swine probably didn't like it, but swine are hard to read. Hog rings also played an important part in repairing prolapsed uterus in cattle, but we will save that story for another time.
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#143362 - 08/09/08 12:38 AM
Re: Anyone used the Stapler?
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I would be scared if someone showed up if i was hurt with that in their hand!!!
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