Chris, for what its worth, I totally agree with Doug / Your stand. If I want demonical racist ranting there are probably loads of places on the web I could find it. I use this site / fora (plural of forum for all you ignorant Yanks LOL) because I value the even-keeled impartial advice the members give to each other - lets keep it like that. (And before anyone disses me I'm totally pro-war and I want ass kicked as much as the next man, but (and its a big but (not butt)) even I drew the line when one of our UK newspapers described President Chirac as "Saddam Husseins Pimp" - well out of order.