Martin, I don't claim to work directly with the credit card companies, you and SHERPADOG do.

I am just a stupid shopkeep messenger who posted what VISA told us for several hours. Who ever VISA is that answers our calls stated that 85% of their system was down and they could not process 40,000 transactions per minute. That is all that I know.

SHERPADOG posted a polite correction to my post - "If you are using First Data services which processes Envoy, Nabanco, CES and a couple of others, yes their system is down and should be back online shortly." I thank SHERPADOG for that.

Martin, I am just a stupid shopkeep messenger that could not find any reference on local media or the internet either. Maybe you and SHERPADOG, two insiders, can enlighten us pleebs. To quote an old phrase with attitude - "Don't post stuff like this here unless you're ready and able to cite the full story."