I like calling it an engineer's take. Good term. Thanks, nursemike.

As far as the psycho-analytic talk, I think you know a lot more about it than I do. I've seen both men and women be out-of-control, hormone-fueled individuals. When in my 20s and 30s, I won't say I always avoided hormone-fueled women, which seemingly has not hurt me. Some of those encounters, well . . . .

But, IMO, for most of us that have no serious issues, the positive/negative reinforcement stuff works fine. People have been using it only for a few hundred generations.

I realize some people need the assistance of someone fully versed on psycho-analytic talk in order to deal with things in their own minds.

I've been waiting to post on this....

My mother built her first BoB, with help, when she was six.

My sister's idea of a good time is camping with a hammock and a tarp and didn't freak when she woke up with a rattlesnake sharing her sleeping bag.

My ladyfriend has a tote of bug out gear loaded, and empty tote to fill, along with cat carriers, that she can load and be gone with in under an hour if she has a hurricane inbound.

So... I can't help any one. I just wanted to share. *laughs*

Easy for you to laugh.

Yes, but does she kill chickens for you while you are out kayaking with ESSBers?

-Blast

No.

She's had three cases of food poisining- once on beef, once on chicken, once on fish. She's a ovolacto veggie as a result. :P

Love means never having to pluck your chicken?

Hide your credit cards in the woods.

"...she woke up with a rattlesnake sharing her sleeping bag..."

I don't freak easily, but that might do it!!!

I'm in agreement with BigDaddyTX here. My wife had no experience camping or outdoors. We got our daughters involved in Girl Scouts and she decided to volunteer. She took the GS camp training, which included fire starting, camp cooking, first aid, etc.

I was a little surprised at her description of her reaction. She says that being able to start a camp fire makes her feel "empowered", better able to control her own environment. I've been camping, hiking, hunting since I was a kid, so I never thought of how it might feel to learn what you have been missing.

Of course, participating in the lives of 4 daughters who like to play outside is a motivator, without that I don't know if she'd have ever set foot in a tent.

Now we have discussions about emergency signals, preparedness, etc. that just didn't occur before.

Still can't get her to take a fish off the hook, but I have not lost hope (she'll at least get the line in the water)...

Did you mean ROFLMAO? Or is this a new one to me?