Great idea to carry different systems; but again, I was pointing out the matches, individually, were no good. So I resorted to having to use multiples of them in order for them to be useful <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Due to an old back injury, 25-30pds max, is what I am able to lug in my pack <img src="images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Stick matches, I have found reliable over the years, it was a change in brand that caused the issue. No problem, they'll be used up in short trips, now that I'm aware of their shortcomings. Thanks, Gene