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#139373 - 07/10/08 10:42 PM Car Inverter Suggestions
Nishnabotna Offline
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So I'm looking for an inverter to power small devices to put in the car. Mostly, I want to be able to power my battery charger (LaCrosse BC900). I don't need to power anything large like a TV or even a laptop, though that would be a plus.
Do the Walmart specials work as well as anything else for this type of application? Or do I need to get a little spendy? I'm thinking Walmart but I don't want to be let down when I need it.
A quick search here at ETS didn't bring up much more than people have them.

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#139375 - 07/10/08 10:57 PM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: Nishnabotna]
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I'd go with a Vector Inverter (Red ones), there cheap and just about anywhere,400 watts or greater.

http://www.invertersrus.com/vec033.html
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#139380 - 07/11/08 12:07 AM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: falcon5000]
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Hi Nishnabotna

I just use a 12v 2000mA DC - DC converter to power my Technoline iCharger IC8800 (LaCrosse BC900) from a Car Cigarette output. (just set it to 3V and ensure the tip polarity is correct)


http://www.amazon.com/12V-2A-DC-Converte...7755&sr=1-9



Edited by Am_Fear_Liath_Mor (07/11/08 12:08 AM)

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#139381 - 07/11/08 12:30 AM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: Am_Fear_Liath_Mor]
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Oops my bad, I was thinking 110V inverter. Sorry, vector also makes a DC to DC inverter as well. Am_Fear_Liath_Mor's one is a good one as well as the http://www.amazon.com/12V-2A-DC-Converte...775&sr=8-38 .
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#139382 - 07/11/08 12:42 AM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: Nishnabotna]
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I use a small 175w inverter with a USB port. I can charge any of my personal electronics and AA battery charger through the lighter port.

The thing is you do not want to charge anything higher than a laptop through the lighter port because it isn't designed for high current continuous draw. That's why a number of high drain inverters have hard-wire connectors so that you can charge off the alternator. I can't imagine how those electric food coolers or TVs can run for very long off a lighter port unless it has an auto shut-off circuit to prevent damage to the port.

http://www.dealsmountain.com/deals.php?id=6917


Edited by Roarmeister (07/11/08 12:44 AM)

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#139385 - 07/11/08 12:59 AM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: Roarmeister]
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Great - these are nice and inexpensive. I was afraid I would have to get one of them $100 deals to actually get decent output.
I hadn't thought of just a DC/DC converter before - that's a good idea.

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#140315 - 07/18/08 09:55 PM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: ]
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I've read somewhere that you can't go above 700 watts with an auto inverter, and that you should go directly from the battery with the 700 watter. I've owned a 700 watter, and returned it because it only had battery hookups instead of a lighter plug. Now I use a 400 (lot cheaper!). Anyone know if the above is true? Can you go higher than 700?
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#140324 - 07/18/08 10:47 PM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: red]
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Not from a lighter socket.

Even 400 watts at full capacity is pushing the envelope. On the DC side, you're drawing nearly 30 amps. The wiring for a lighter just isn't designed for a sustained draw of that size.

The 400 watt inverters I've seen came with both lighter socket and battery clip attachments.

The 1000 watt I got has battery clips only. And the instructions strongly recommend a better (permanent) connection for anything other than casual use.


Edited by dougwalkabout (07/18/08 10:48 PM)

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#140349 - 07/19/08 01:09 AM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: dougwalkabout]
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Most cigarette lighter sockets are rated for 15-amps or so. Look at the fuse to confirm this, it’s probably a 15-amp fuse. Ohms / watts law says you will only get 207 watts out of a lighter plug. 13.8 volts times 15 amps comes to 207 watts.

If you want or need more then that, you should run a new line from the battery with stranded wire (don’t use Romex or any other solid wire) to wherever you are going to mount the inverter. Don’t use a cigarette lighter plug, if you buy one from Radio Shack they are rated for only 10-amps according to the package.

Hard wire it to the inverter or buy Anderson plugs or pole connectors.

300 amp arc welding cable would be a good choice.



Inverters pull a lot of power out of a battery without the auto running they will kill the battery fast. A 400 watt inverter draws 28 amps when running at capacity. And that doesn’t take loss or less then 100% efficiency into account.


An auto battery is not made to be drained like a deep cycle battery, do this a few times and you will be buying a new battery.


Edited by BobS (07/19/08 01:13 AM)
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#140375 - 07/19/08 03:37 PM Re: Car Inverter Suggestions [Re: BobS]
Nishnabotna Offline
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I don't have a lot of power needs, so I think this one would fit the bill pretty decently
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-Technologi...943&sr=1-23
Enough to charge AA batteries with the BC900 or a cell phone, small things like that.
Thanks for the thoughts.

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