| 
| 
| 
| #139500 - 07/12/08 07:36 PM  wood fired steam generator |  
|   Newbie
 
 Registered:  03/11/08
 Posts: 42
 Loc:  VA
 | 
Has anyone ever heard of a wood fired steam generator?i live in an area with thick woods near by.
 
 something with a steam turbine would be nicest, even if i need to piece it together.
 maybe a steam cooker with a system to replace the water lost as steam?
 
_________________________Sweat saves blood.
 Erwin Rommel
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139501 - 07/12/08 08:15 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: EHCRain10] |  
|   Cranky Geek
 Carpal Tunnel
 
   Registered:  09/08/05
 Posts: 4642
 Loc:  Vermont
 | 
Sure, the only reason why the steam engines we think of with locomotives burning coal is becuase it burns hotter and has more eficcent in general in terms of BTUs/ton. The trick is making a safe boiler, but there are plenty of plans out there.  
_________________________-IronRaven
 
 When a man dare not speak without malice for fear of giving insult, that is when truth starts to die. Truth is the truest freedom.
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139502 - 07/12/08 08:32 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: ironraven] |  
|   
   Veteran
 
 Registered:  08/19/03
 Posts: 1371
 Loc:  Queens, New York City
 | 
OK, turbines use a LOT of water, and are NOT very efficent
 What you want (if you can get/build one) is a "corliss" type engine
 
 Getting engines in the 3-5 HP range is NOT all that hard, in fact, I know folks who build them.  The problem is the boilers.  As Ironraven says, a LOT use coal, although getting wood boilers isn't that bad.  You would PROBABLY want a vertical tube boiler.  You will be highly dependant upon a reliable source of GOOD water, and learning all about boiler firing, water treatment, and the like
 
 Boilers are complex enough that you have to realize that most industrial/commercial insurance companies came about to inspect/insure boilers
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139504 - 07/12/08 09:03 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: KG2V] |  
|   Old Hand
 
 Registered:  02/08/08
 Posts: 924
 Loc:  Toledo Ohio
 | 
I did some internet research on this a few months ago. It’s a lot more involved and dangerous then you would first think it is. I decided it’s not worth it for me. 
 I was interested because I have a friend that owns a lumber yard and I get free wood.
 
 
 Do some searching before you jump.
 
 
_________________________
 
 
 You can run, but you'll only die tired.
 
 
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139505 - 07/12/08 09:37 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: KG2V] |  
|   Carpal Tunnel
 
   Registered:  11/09/06
 Posts: 2851
 Loc:  La-USA
 | 
Some of the biggest Maritime Disasters involved steam engines blowing up. 
_________________________QMC, USCG (Ret)
 The best luck is what you make yourself!
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139507 - 07/12/08 09:49 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: wildman800] |  
|   Crazy Canuck
 Carpal Tunnel
 
 Registered:  02/03/07
 Posts: 3265
 Loc:  Alberta, Canada
 | 
I would strongly recommend against home-built steam pressure boilers. Pressurized steam contains ENORMOUS amounts of energy. It kills the unwary, the uninformed, and innocent bystanders.
 This is roughly the equivalent of filling a vessel with black powder and lighting a fuse of unknown length. Please don't do it.
 
 If you want to convert wood to mechanical energy, set up a gasification system and a piston engine.
 
 From the website of one of the regulators of pressure equipment:
 
 "The boiler explosion at a 2001 county fair in Medina, Ohio,
 tragically demonstrates the importance of proper inspection and
 maintenance. In that instance, the crown sheets on an antique
 steam-tractor boiler had been reduced to 23% of their original
 thickness. The mechanical failure of the boiler occurred at a
 pressure below that of the installed safety devices, instantaneously releasing an estimated 28,000,000 ft-lbs of force, and lifting the 20-ton steam tractor some twelve feet in the air. Five fatalities and forty-eight injuries resulted from the blast."
 
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139508 - 07/12/08 11:10 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: dougwalkabout] |  
|   Enthusiast
 
 Registered:  01/08/04
 Posts: 351
 Loc:  Centre Hall Pa
 | 
_________________________When in danger or in doubt
 run in circles scream and shout
 RAH
 
 And always remember TANSTAAFL
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139515 - 07/12/08 11:33 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: Raspy] |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  09/30/01
 Posts: 5695
 Loc:  Former AFB in CA, recouping fr...
 | 
What do you want to do with this bomb??? 
_________________________OBG
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
| 
| 
| #139563 - 07/13/08 10:12 PM  Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: KG2V] |  
|   Old Hand
 
 Registered:  02/08/08
 Posts: 924
 Loc:  Toledo Ohio
 | 
My interest in steam power is almost nil, but could a sterling engine be made to generate rotational power to run a generator. 
 
 
 
 I think wind & solar is a great way to generate power. I’m exploring these.
 
 I have never given steam a lot of time other then a few hours of searching on the net a few months ago and deciding it’s not for me.
 
 
_________________________
 
 
 You can run, but you'll only die tired.
 
 
 |  
| Top |  |  |  |  
 
 
 
 | 
| 
 
 
|  |  |  | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 |  
| 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 |  
| 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 |  
| 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 |  
| 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 |  | 
 |  
| 
	
 
| 0 registered (), 
895 
Guests and
114 
Spiders online. |  
| 
	Key:
	Admin,
	Global Mod,
	Mod
 | 
 |  |