#139500 - 07/12/08 07:36 PM
wood fired steam generator
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Has anyone ever heard of a wood fired steam generator? i live in an area with thick woods near by.
something with a steam turbine would be nicest, even if i need to piece it together. maybe a steam cooker with a system to replace the water lost as steam?
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#139501 - 07/12/08 08:15 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
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Sure, the only reason why the steam engines we think of with locomotives burning coal is becuase it burns hotter and has more eficcent in general in terms of BTUs/ton. The trick is making a safe boiler, but there are plenty of plans out there.
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#139502 - 07/12/08 08:32 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
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OK, turbines use a LOT of water, and are NOT very efficent
What you want (if you can get/build one) is a "corliss" type engine
Getting engines in the 3-5 HP range is NOT all that hard, in fact, I know folks who build them. The problem is the boilers. As Ironraven says, a LOT use coal, although getting wood boilers isn't that bad. You would PROBABLY want a vertical tube boiler. You will be highly dependant upon a reliable source of GOOD water, and learning all about boiler firing, water treatment, and the like
Boilers are complex enough that you have to realize that most industrial/commercial insurance companies came about to inspect/insure boilers
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#139504 - 07/12/08 09:03 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
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Registered: 02/08/08
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Loc: Toledo Ohio
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I did some internet research on this a few months ago. It’s a lot more involved and dangerous then you would first think it is. I decided it’s not worth it for me.
I was interested because I have a friend that owns a lumber yard and I get free wood.
Do some searching before you jump.
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#139505 - 07/12/08 09:37 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
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Some of the biggest Maritime Disasters involved steam engines blowing up.
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#139507 - 07/12/08 09:49 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
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I would strongly recommend against home-built steam pressure boilers. Pressurized steam contains ENORMOUS amounts of energy. It kills the unwary, the uninformed, and innocent bystanders.
This is roughly the equivalent of filling a vessel with black powder and lighting a fuse of unknown length. Please don't do it.
If you want to convert wood to mechanical energy, set up a gasification system and a piston engine.
From the website of one of the regulators of pressure equipment:
"The boiler explosion at a 2001 county fair in Medina, Ohio, tragically demonstrates the importance of proper inspection and maintenance. In that instance, the crown sheets on an antique steam-tractor boiler had been reduced to 23% of their original thickness. The mechanical failure of the boiler occurred at a pressure below that of the installed safety devices, instantaneously releasing an estimated 28,000,000 ft-lbs of force, and lifting the 20-ton steam tractor some twelve feet in the air. Five fatalities and forty-eight injuries resulted from the blast."
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#139508 - 07/12/08 11:10 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
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#139515 - 07/12/08 11:33 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: Raspy]
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What do you want to do with this bomb???
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#139563 - 07/13/08 10:12 PM
Re: wood fired steam generator
[Re: KG2V]
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Registered: 02/08/08
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Loc: Toledo Ohio
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My interest in steam power is almost nil, but could a sterling engine be made to generate rotational power to run a generator.
I think wind & solar is a great way to generate power. I’m exploring these.
I have never given steam a lot of time other then a few hours of searching on the net a few months ago and deciding it’s not for me.
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