Yeah, 12 lbs is sort of amazing. The flip side of the ultralight canoe is that it doesn't just sit there in the water or on the ground. Doesn't have the stability/inertia of a big clunky fiberglass boat, so I can't walk around in it on the water, and any little wind will blow it around on the ground. Plenty stable when I sit in it, but a little dicey on the way in and out. Hornbeck's barn is an official boat-building facility, inspected by NYS according to the same standards as places where they build steel-hulled merchant ships- inspections are apparently quite complicated. We suggested that he redefine his product as being hats, with an incidental use, upside down, as boats.