#132523 - 05/10/08 10:35 PM
Re: FAK for my summer job (canoe guide)
[Re: Russ]
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Loc: Mountains of CA
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The problem with other than OTC meds is that they are for someone who's name is on the bottle. Sure, if you have a medical condition, your prescription drugs should have a place in a personal FAK, but I'd check the legality of carrying prescription pain medication in place of OTC Motrin. $.02, what's legal? Russ - This is his personal kit... he's not handing them out to other ppl.
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#132525 - 05/10/08 10:44 PM
Re: FAK for my summer job (canoe guide)
[Re: Todd W]
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Registered: 06/02/06
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Loc: SOCAL
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Which means to me that if doesn't have a prescription for pain meds it would be best to stick with OTC (Motrin, Aspirin and Tylenol).
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#132536 - 05/11/08 12:35 AM
Re: FAK for my summer job (canoe guide)
[Re: Russ]
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Which means to me that if doesn't have a prescription for pain meds it would be best to stick with OTC (Motrin, Aspirin and Tylenol). Sorry, he never stated where he was getting them from I just `assumed` they were `scripts in his name.
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#132540 - 05/11/08 02:22 AM
Re: FAK for my summer job (canoe guide)
[Re: Vader]
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 160
Loc: Mid-Missouri
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My thoughts:
Bandages More 4x4s, less roll gauze knuckle and fingertip bandaids less tape, lose the cloth tape, keep athletic tape add Sensi-Wrap Self-Adherent Bandages or similar (like sticky ace wraps) ? Blisto-ban
Tools Add Uncle Bill's Sliver Grippers
Other Drop matches, add Bic (? Mini-Bic) ? toothbrush (have toothpaste)
Meds Celecoxip (RX, but not considered controlled in US - less hassle if questioned) Bactroban or Polysporin, not both ? temp filling kit
How long is this kit to provide for? A single dose of the antibiotics may cause more harm than good unless a pharmacy is less than a day away.
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#132542 - 05/11/08 02:41 AM
Re: FAK for my summer job (canoe guide)
[Re: marduk]
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Registered: 02/08/08
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Loc: Toledo Ohio
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I don’t see the prescription meds for personal use as an issue for personal use. The prescription med police are not going to come out and dig through your pack. If you are the only one using them the others in your party may never find out unless you tell them. And antibiotics and real pain killers work where OTC pain meds do almost nothing.
I was in a motorcycle accident years ago and have lived with the pain every day, and I would have to take a whole bottle of aspirin pills to do what 2 real pain pills do.
The real pills could make the difference in allowing you to do what you need to do. And a few antibiotics could easily fight off an infection from a nasty cut before it becomes a real problem.
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#132549 - 05/11/08 03:31 AM
Re: FAK for my summer job (canoe guide)
[Re: Roarmeister]
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Registered: 10/19/06
Posts: 1013
Loc: Pacific NW, USA
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+1 on the WFA course, even the shorter 20 hour (weekend / recert) course is good for focussing your FAK and treatment. I think you've got a good kit, as long as you think through your other gear and anticipate splinting a broken arm or leg - for that, having *several* triangle bandages available to tie and immobilize the limb can be good, otherwise you get to wave bye bye to the helicopter as it makes off with your patient and splint (probably a thermarest pad) and all your canoe ties.
In our course we found that the SAM splint was not as useful except for arm splints. And while I pack a thermometer too, I have yet to use it to diagnose anyone. They're either hot or cold and pretty obvious at that. ymmv
Also on the epipens and bee stings, consider the liquid or quick dissolving strips of benadryl now available. You will need two epipens, and the window of opportunity to administer benadryl between them could be short. Hopefully they can chew - just in case, pack some liquid benadryl ampules that you can open down their throat. On the epipens, our NOLS WMI instructor said they carry ampules of the medicine separate from the injector, so they have a bunch of medicine without the cost ($75 each) of the epipen. Your company can call and ask NOLS about that, and see if your referring doctor can set you up. But it all comes back to medical training...
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#132551 - 05/11/08 03:32 AM
Re: FAK for my summer job (canoe guide)
[Re: Roarmeister]
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Registered: 09/17/07
Posts: 1219
Loc: here
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When I carried Epi-Pens, 2 of them, it said that if there was not an improvement in the symptoms after 5 or 15 minutes (can't remember) then the second pen should be administered. As a side this is similar to chemical warfare dosing protocols. All that said...two is the minimum to carry.
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