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| #132182 - 05/07/08 01:09 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Polak187] |  
|   Carpal Tunnel
 
   Registered:  11/09/06
 Posts: 2851
 Loc:  La-USA
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And that is also true of most of the folks in the rest of the good ole U S of A!!! 
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| #132185 - 05/07/08 01:30 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: wildman800] |  
|   Pooh-Bah
 
 Registered:  04/08/02
 Posts: 1821
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it's not just the US, but i quess most of the western world. I quess we are to safe to really prepare for disasters. 
 In The Netherlands, prepardness is even less. The govermant has started to promote prepardness, but with little succes. And we are not talking mayor prepardness.
 
 The list of basic items by the Dutch goverment is:"
 - A FM radio, with batteries
 - Flashlight
 - First Aid kit
 - Matches in a waterproof containter.
 
 On the addition items list:
 - Prescription medicine
 - cash, importent papers
 - Spare keys
 - maps / phonenumbers
 - 3L water per person, per day
 - 3 days worth of food
 - hygiene stuff.
 
 Really basic in all, yet i have yet to find somebody that actually has these things with prepardness in mind. And i don't just know a lot of normal people, i work in the emergency and safety business.
 
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| #132186 - 05/07/08 01:34 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Since2003] |  
|   What's Next?
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 Registered:  07/19/07
 Posts: 266
 Loc:  New York
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My NYC EDC for commuting from Brooklyn to Manhattan by subway in a suit and tie:
 On self / in pockets / on belt:
 Keys
 Blackberry
 Fox 40 Whistle (on keychain)
 Small Buck folding knife (on quick release on key chain)
 Fenix P3D flashlight
 Watch
 Wallet with ID, credit cards, and never less than $20
 Rain gear / umbrella as appropriate
 
 In briefcase (messenger bag type):
 N95 dustmask
 Spare CR123 batteries
 Paper, pens, pencils
 Lunch
 Wind-up emergency AM/FM radio with built in flashlight
 
 At work:
 Running shoes and change of clothes
 Two Nalgene type water bottles, as well as commercial bottled water in my desk
 Additional N95 dust masks
 Company provided emergency kit with:
 Battery powered AM/FM radio
 Chemical light sticks
 "juice box" water
 Space blanket
 Cheap flashlight
 Latex gloves
 
 My thougts are that in most any emergency my first concern will be to get myself out of the subway or highrise office building where I am, followed by walking home.  The walk shouldn't take more than a couple of hours (even in work shoes), so huge amounts of food and water are unnecessary.  I'd have to choose between one of three bridges, though I suppose if it got really bad I could walk through the Battery tunnel as well.  (Heck, I've even mapped out a route home walking through the subway tunnels if I had to stay below ground the whole way, but it would have to be REALLY BAD before I tried that one!)  At home I have substantial resources for sheltering in place and keepng my family safe and comfortable, so getting there is the primary goal.
 
 Do I have everything I could conceivably need?  No
 Do I have reasonable resources available to me that I am unlikely to find overly inconvenient to keep around?  I think so
 Do I have more than nearly everyone around me?  Absolutely.
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| #132188 - 05/07/08 01:56 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Jesselp] |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  06/02/06
 Posts: 5359
 Loc:  SOCAL
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Jesselp, Why did you choose the "Wind-up emergency AM/FM radio with built in flashlight"?  It seems to me a standard battery powered AM/FM radio would have enough battery life to get you home.  The windup radios I've seen were all more geared toward the long term.  A standard radio should save you both weight and space in your messenger bag.  Add a   SAK Handyman  to make up the weight savings  
_________________________Better is the Enemy of Good Enough.
 Okay, what’s your point??
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| #132191 - 05/07/08 02:27 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Russ] |  
|   What's Next?
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 Registered:  07/19/07
 Posts: 266
 Loc:  New York
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Russ, Well, they came in a pack of two at Costco.  Rather than buy something else, I figured I'd put one in my bag. Truth is, I've not been impressed with the things, and will probably be replacing them soon.  I've had them for about a year, and they no longer hold a charge for the light.  You need to keep turning the handle to get the light to work. I don't think I'll be buying a new SAK for my bag, but I've toyed with the idea of tossing my Leatherman Charge Ti in the bag, however it was an anniversary gift from my wife, and I'm a bit scared I'll lose it   JLP
 Edited by Jesselp (05/07/08 02:33 PM)
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| #132217 - 05/07/08 05:15 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Jesselp] |  
|   Geezer
 
 Registered:  06/02/06
 Posts: 5359
 Loc:  SOCAL
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If the LM Charge Ti was a gift, all the more reason to carry an expendable in the bag.  The SAK Spartan is fairly inexpensive and not too threatening if that's an issue.   As for a radio/light combo that doesn't hold a charge -- dump it, dump it now.  Don't waste your energy lugging it if it doesn't work.  A   cheap Sony AA . . .wait a sec while I check Amazon. . .will set you back ~$10 plus shipping and it works on very common AA batteries.  Something to consider would be to get a flashlight that also runs on AA batteries such as the   Fenix L2D or L2T  so you only need one set of spares.  Just a thought, yours to carry.  
_________________________Better is the Enemy of Good Enough.
 Okay, what’s your point??
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| #132219 - 05/07/08 05:34 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Since2003] |  
|   Enthusiast
 
   Registered:  02/24/03
 Posts: 324
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This article depresses me, but doesn't surprise.  I think the short memory span is just part of being human and flawed. 
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| #132259 - 05/07/08 09:29 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Russ] |  
|   Enthusiast
 
 Registered:  08/15/03
 Posts: 208
 Loc:  NE Ohio
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Jesselp - you're doing a lot better than the majority, I'm sure. I'd say Russ has some very good suggestions. If you don't want to order online, you probably pass street vendors or electronics stores with even cheaper and/or smaller radio versions - something with earbuds so you can listen on the move. I was very glad to have one in the '03 blackout - news reports on WNYC (1010 WINS was knocked out by the power outage) started explaining the scope of the outages, so I could convince some people still waiting on the subway platform that there wasn't going to be a "next" train that day.
 Also, you might want to consider a small Nalgene, like a .5-liter, with water on you. Something you won't break, something you can refill as you walk (unlike the "juice box). The blackout was also a hot day, and it was a long walk home for me (and I was already in Brooklyn...adding Manhattan to the walk would not have been fun).
 
 Dave
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| #132275 - 05/07/08 10:46 PM  Re: Being Equipped is so "Anal" Says New York
[Re: Polak187] |  
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I think it's unfair to single out New Yorkers...there are people like this everywhere and I see my fair share every day. |  
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