Now somebody was prepared...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352480,00.html

Ya gotta love it!!!

Thats why it pays to be prepared at ALL times.

But, since as I understand it, LEO's transporting prisoners, even violent felony prisoners, must remove the handcuffs while in-flight, the passengers who taped the BG to the chair will probably be prosecuted...

Violent felony prisoners usually get to ride on a special charter flight with ConAir. But yes, escorted prisoners (low risk) have to be "unrestrained" for safety/evacuation reasons. Besides, tape tears easily enough. Not so for handcuffs.

"...tape tears easily enough. Not so for handcuffs..."

Very true. And never trust "flexcuffs" (large zip ties), I have had more than one bad experience with those things...

Some details, please? How did they fail?

-Blast

Had a guy hooked up with metal handcuffs, he started kicking, so I flexed his feet together (two flexcuffs, interlinked and snugged up around his ankles), got distracted for a second, next think I knew I got kicked in the side of the head. He had managed to bend the little metal blade back the wrong way and was free.

You want to hear scary, I have seen guys, smallish guys, who were on PCP break the chain on a pair of Peerless steel handcuffs, with the cuffs applied behind the back. Then things can get out of control very rapidly...

Thanks for the info. It's good to know what works and what doesn't.

Oh course, knowing how to get out of those flixicuffs might be handy some day...



Ye gads!! How badly did he tear up his wrists doing that? I would have thought flesh/bone would give before steel...

-Blast

I bet OBG went to the hinge-types after that!

Now here is a question i've always been curious about, whats the difference between the hinge and the chain type handcuffs? And no, its not for 'personal' knowledge! LOL. Just always curious. Seems that the hinge type are far superiour, but you don't see too many cops carrying them.

All apolgies for taking the thread off course.

Kris

I've been told they're more difficult to put on than regular cuffs, and that there is a greater possibility of injury to those detained with them (which is why some departments don't allow them).

Barely a mark. Did some pretty good damage to the two officers who had arrested him too...

Yup, got a couple pair of them. Unbreakable, and they have a larger hole for large wrists. Unfortunately the holes are closer together, so if you have a large prisoner you can get the cuffs around the wrists, but really have to work to get the wrists close enough together to hook them up. The hinged cuffs also work on ankles, which is handy...

"...Seems that the hinge type are far superiour, but you don't see too many cops carrying them..."

Many officers only have what is issued to them, they won't go buy any equipment on their own. I was just the opposite, I spent a fortune over the years on what I hoped to be better stuff. One bad thing about the hinged cuffs is that you can not use them with many of the handcuffing techniques departments use. With my former department, I was required to use their approved techniqes ONLY, if I tried something different on my own and got hurt in the process, it was a "preventable injury." But ya gotta do what ya gotta do, so I carried both typed of cuffs (two cases on my belt), and had about six or seven more pair in my bag...

Thanks for that OBG.

Hi,

I training we were shown a video of an arrested man defeating Flex-cuffs with a shoelace. The lace is treaded through the cuff and pulled back and forth quickly, the friction cuts through the plastic in less than 5 seconds. I heard that cuffs are now available with a wire insert to defeat this escape method but I have not been able to source any of these improved flex-cuffs.

I searched U-Tube for the short video but could not find it.

Mike

I can believe it. If a construction worker use nylon cord to cut thru copper pipe (typical household stuff/size) quicker then using a hacksaw, going thru plastic shouldn't be that difficult.