Most living creatures generate their own vitamin C. Humans still have the mechanism in their cells, but it got switched off somewhere far back along the common ancestral line.

Kinda depends:
If your on a pleasure trip, cherry pick the grocery store, and clean them out of the light stuff..then pick out some small-heavy stuff....(Cavir for example)
+1 on the smoked oysters, packed in oil, also +1 on "C Rat" canned dinner, 1/day= pretty civilised, and weight be damed (2-3 days)

If you'r going "lite, fast &long" different rules apply, ( hoofing 15- 35 miles a day, with a purpose).....recipie for that is: 1/2LB peanut butter 1/8 lb jerkey, 1/8 lb dog food ( my personal favoret is gravey tran), and about a 1/4 pound of dog biscits-to scoop up the peanut buter,per day,,,, (as memory serves, ymmv.These are old estimates ,and thats going rough & fast, not for a fun walk, and by the way, I'm a small guy and I don't eat much),

I've made it on no more than 1/2 lb of peanut butter & crackers in a pinch, wasn't that bad;, Peanut butter is your friend, if you've got it

BOB S, " God created cats so people could pet lions." Ritter and Kavanaugh both have cats. My cat, Piewacket saved my life, literally. I kept trying to walk out into a heavy storm and he kept biting and scratching my thigh ( Montana Hi Top riding boots and jeans)I had to untangle his claws from my jeans, put him down and start for the door 8 times. I was turning the doornknob when a huge native oaktree came crashing down and took out my apt stairwell. I don't have 9 lives.

I just pick on cats because at least 2 times a month I see homes that smell real bad because of cats. Some of them are so bad you can smell it before you open the door. And it amazes me that the owners can’t seem to smell it. Or they want me to spray some deodorizer on it thinking it will fix it when the only fix it to throw away the carpet and pad and then seal the wood floor with polyurethane and then get rid of the cat before you put new carpet down. Or else it will destroy the new carpet in a short time.

Cat urine is some really nasty stuff.

Cleaning carpet in homes gives me a different view of cats then most people have. That and I’m allergic to them.

off topic.

it's the owners that allow the cats their behavior.

imho, cats train faster than dogs.

cat urine never dries.

wood floors can be sealed with kilz, cheaper than polyurethane and just as effective.

in my job i deal with these issues on a regular basis, too.

i live with four cats - never sealed my floors. we don't have odors.

we now return you to your regularly scheduled topic.

Hi Gunsmith



Sure beats MREs, I guess!!

Not to sure about the Gravy Train dog food though

Gravy Train contains corn, soybean meal, beef and bone meal, animal fat, animal digest, Red 40, Yellow 5, Yellow 6, Blue 2, and BHA

Perhaps you should find out what animal digest, red 40, Blue 2, BHA actually consists of (considering some may potentially be human carcinogens)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravy_Train_(dog_food)

before consuming any more, unless of course you're looking for a nice shiny coat and a wet nose.

http://www.doberdogs.com/foodcht2.html

Animal Digest - A powder or liquid made by taking clean under-composed animal tissue and breaking it down using chemical and or emblematic hydrolysis. It does not contain horn, teeth, hair, hooves, or feathers except in trace amounts which are unavoidable, Digest names must be descriptive of their contents....that is, chicken digest must be made from chicken and beef digest made from beef.

Hi Hacksaw,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_digest

Animal Digest is a common ingredient used in pet foods. It is material which results from chemical and/or enzymatic hydrolysis of clean and undecomposed animal tissue. The animal tissues used shall be exclusive of hair, horns, teeth, hooves and feathers, except in such trace amounts as might occur unavoidably in good factory practice and shall be suitable for animal feed.[1]

As defined by the AAFCO, it is produced by chemically or enzymatically treating animal tissue (such as flesh, bone, organs, etc.) from slaughterhouses and other sources, in a process akin to rendering.

Yet another expert defines this as "a cooked-down broth" which can be made from unspecified parts of unspecified animals. The animals used can be obtained from almost any source and no control is in place over quality or contamination. Any kind of animal can be included: "4-D animals" (dead, diseased, disabled, or dying prior to slaughter), goats, pigs, horses, rats, euthanized at animal shelters, restaurant and supermarket refuse and so on."[2]

Yummy.

I'll stick to people food

Hi Hacksaw,



I've found it pretty weird how 'Food for the Trail' has turned into the discussion about the nutritional upsides and downsides of cat and dog food. What would be useful would be some good wholesome homemade recipes that we can all try out the next time we find ourselves in the wilderness. Doggy food and treats won't be finding there way into my pack anytime soon either.