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#128980 - 04/01/08 05:50 PM Re: Cable Ties [Re: benjammin]
Dan_McI Offline
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Registered: 12/10/07
Posts: 844
Loc: NYC
I like zip ties for some things. For one, they stay and do not quickly lose strength, even in a lousy environment. Two, you can get them tight, and once they are tight, they do not slacken. And for somethings they are relatively quick, compared with the right knot. For instance, a couple of the garbage zip ties could do what a tying turkshead could do and save you a few hours.

However, and I am not putting down the zip ties or anyone, but

Originally Posted By: benjammin
I reckon there's a whole lot more folks out there that could bind up three legs with a proper sized zip tie than could work out a three wrap hitch knot and expect it to hold, without any practice.


this tells me that knot-tying is an area in which a lot of people could improve their proficiency. I cannot imagine the time it would take me to work with zip ties and get that anything like a calf's legs tied, but a piece of line it would take nothing flat.

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#129010 - 04/02/08 12:15 AM Re: Cable Ties [Re: KenK]
ducttape Offline
Newbie

Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 45
Originally Posted By: KenK
I think the first time I saw releasable zip ties was in one of Doug Ritter's kits. I've looked for them in stores ever since, but have yet to see them.

I figured if shelter building or making repairs weren't going well and things were going south (mental strain, physical injury), then having releasable zip ties might provide a second/third... chance to get it right.

Of course the release feature isn't so good if you're using them as little tiny handcuffs.


I've found them at HomeDepot-black 25pack.

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#129017 - 04/02/08 01:01 AM Re: Cable Ties [Re: LumpyJaw]
Seeker890 Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 06/19/06
Posts: 93
Loc: Central Ohio
Cable ties do things with strength that you just can't do with paracord. I carry some 6 inch ties when I go camping / hiking in my repair kit. We had a hip belt quick connect (on a "new" pack) split. A zip tie squeezed it together enough so that the belt would still snap together. It lasted another 45 miles at Philmont, and as far as I know, its still on the pack. You just can't compress that type of connector together reliably with cord to hold together for any length of time. It is unparalleled at some types of expedient gear repair.
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#129305 - 04/04/08 02:55 PM Re: Cable Ties [Re: Seeker890]
LumpyJaw Offline
Journeyman

Registered: 08/04/07
Posts: 87
Loc: Virginia, USA
Thanks for all the input/ideas. Just bought some recently for another project, so I have some left over. Will toss some in the PSK this afternoon.

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