BobS, II just read your post and yes there website sux, but there product is awesome. I just bought a deck bag for a trip to keep larger items waterproof to 200 feet. If you are interested in their product to see it better I can make a video of one of my bags and post it if you want. Just let me know. I'm not a fan of the roll up dry bags due to deep submersion leaks. The watershed bags use a closure system identical but thicker than the Nasa old SCAPE suits before they went to zippers. I like this over zippers for the non metallic signature and durability of the product. I've been so happy with these bags I have bought 4 and another on the way.