Now wait a minute Greg. Please stand down for a second and understand that with above post you just brougth tears to my eyes. After all I was raised on watching McGuyver and I personally saw him stopiing nuclear leak with SAK and ductape... SO you telling me that his show wasn't for real? I knew something was fishy after I tried to replicate some of his inventions and they didn't work. <img src="images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> But thank you for ruining my childhood memories and sending me on the quest to look for another role model. Thanks a lot...

Matt

ps.
You made excelent points.