ONCE AN HOUR?? What a treat!

At my closest bus stop, the bus comes at 6:15, 6:40 and 7:30 AM and comes back at 16:15, 17:05 and 17:55. That's it. No other buses.

That's why I have to drive so far (almost 20 miles) to the other station.

All over the United States, it's the same story. There's AMPLE demand for mass transit, there's nowhere near the infrastructure to support the number of people who WOULD use mass transit if they COULD.




I don’t know that I agree with that. It may work for a big city like New York. But here in Toledo Ohio it will not.

The way people go to work here is much different then NY or LA. Here business are spread all over the place, downtown Toledo is not the center of business like it is in NY. Much of it is in the blurbs in buildings that are under 2-stories tall. With a high-rise building you can have thousands of people in a small area. But with a bunch of 2-story buildings spread all over the area in many cities it becomes impossible to bus people to them very well.

Toledo has buses, but they are on limited loops and used mostly by lower income people that don’t or can’t drive. And many of the surrounding cities are voting to opt-out of the TARTA system (Toledo area bus system.) 2 of them in the last week voted to opt-out.

My guess is that most of the USA is like this and just not well served by a public bus system like it is in a larger city like NY.



I haven’t been on a bus since high school other then one vacation trip, it’s the same way with almost everyone I know.


Every business that is not actually in downtown Toledo (more here are not downtown then is, many many more) has a parking lot that you can pull into and find a parking spot any time of the day, and it’s free to park in. And the walk from your car to the front door of all the businesses is no more then 30-seconds. Everyone here drives their own car to work or appointments because it’s easy to do. Why wait for a bus when you can drive right up to the door of the place you are going to? Even when going to downtown Toledo you can find street parking all day long. And the parking meters are free from 11:00 am to 2:00 pm.


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Actually other then the rise in the cost of food. the gas price raise hasn't really affected me as i don't drive.

but the only annoying thing is the closest bus to my place only runs once an hour and doesn't run on sindays and it stops fairly early in the evening

Since my DUI in summer 2005, I have hardly driven at all. I live in a small enough city that I can comfortably walk almost anywhere I need to go. On the rare occassion that I need to cross city borders, there is a bus.

Quite the dichotomy, but I think accurate. Most of the metro I've experienced in the US has woefully inadequate mass transit. It ain't cheap either. Contrasting, suburban and rural mass transit is way underutilized. In most non-metro places, nearly all of the passenger traffic seem to be among the poorer parts of the communities.

When they invent teleportation devices, it will make getting around a lot easier, after they work out the bugs, that is. Get it, bugs in the teleporter; the movie "The Fly"? I made a funny...

Get it, bugs in the teleporter; the movie "The Fly"? I made a funny...

I made a funny

Not really....

Yeah yeah yeah, everyone's a critic...

Gas prices haven't changed our driving habits at all. Gas is such a small part of our monthly outlay, it would have to rise quite a bit more before I'm going to change anything.

Seeing as how everything is supply and demand based, it amazes me how people and politicians complain about the prices while not letting the oil companies drill more and build more refineries... Go figure...

Really, there is plenty of oil to sustain the US. It's not like the oil crisis we've experience in the past, were the supply was very low, driving the price up. The main reason oil is so high, is our weak dollar. It makes commodities like oil, gold, steel, ect more expensive, because your dollar isn't stretching as far as it used to. If the dollar was higher, gas prices would be lower. Not $1 a gallon low, but much lower than they are currently.

I won’t pretend to understand all the factors involved in what sets the gas prices. I just try to minimize it’s effect on me personally. So far it’s working. In fact I make more money on it.