That Vaude is definately a nice tent but hardcore to be sure. Looks bombproof but unfortunately it's a bit expensive and on the heavy side.

The Eureka Asault Outfitter 4 is a nice tent and I've looked at the outfitter series from Eureka before as they seem to be some of the most affordable 4 season tents out there. The assault even has 2 big vestibules unlike some of the other outfitter tents they offer...thanks for the tip on that site Nicodemus. With the factory seconds price, it might be an option though it is on the heavy side being a 4 season tent but then it is a 4 person, 4 season tent so maybe it's not so bad...tough call.

Seems like compromise is the name of the game as usual. Traditionally my tent purchasing criteria are 1) Is it crap? If not then: 2) Is it cheap? This has led me to own many tents as my selections inevitably wear out or are in a style which makes them obsolete for my uses as time goes on (My 8 man tent is less than good for hiking for example ). I've been known to break rule 1 in favor of a very cheap tent...almost always a mistake.