#125915 - 03/01/08 11:06 PM
GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
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day hiker
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done the search, no luck. anyone have any thoughts on which one is better and then why or why not? i'm looking to buy one of these in the one litre size. http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=1168or http://www.gsioutdoors.com/detail.aspx?c=11&sc2=29&p=73387&lu=%2flist.aspx%3fc%3d11%26sc2%3d29& thank you in advance.
Edited by bsmith (03/01/08 11:08 PM) Edit Reason: add urls.
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#125917 - 03/01/08 11:09 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: bsmith]
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+1 for Nalgene. Indestructible. JMO.
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#125952 - 03/02/08 02:04 AM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: loner5667]
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"...it fits in my GSI cup better..."
Mine too. Slight plastic flavor, but worth it...
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#125996 - 03/02/08 05:17 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
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+1 for Nalgene, but the GSI ones are probably fine. Since Nalgenes are the de facto standard, a lot of bottle carriers and other accesories are made to fit Nalgene bottles. A lot of water filters, if you intend to filter for purification, are threaded to screw directly onto Nalgene wide mouth openings. I've actually gone more toward Nalgene because so many other products work with Nalgenes, but they're a great bottle, period. Nalgenes are very leak proof which is a huge deal if you plan to do cold wx outings and want to take a hot water bottle with you into your sleeping bag. One item of note: with the polycarbonate (clear plastic) versions, there is some controversy that chemicals leach into the water. Supposedly the translucent bottles made out of polyethelene (HDPE) are safer. http://www.nalgene-outdoor.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=59 You'll also notice that the HDPE are $6.60 vs. $9.00 for the polycarbs. One (kinda) bad thing about the colorized polycarb bottles is that sometimes the color from iodine water purification gets distorted whereas with the white translucent bottles, I can always see the color which is just a double check to know that the "dosage" is right. Unless your need is immediate, shop around. I've seen very good deals ($5.00 for the polycarbs, $4.50 for the HDPE's) on line. Addendum: Karst sports has the half liter HDPE Nalgenes on sale for $1.62!! http://www.karstsports.com/na16wimohdbo.html
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#126165 - 03/03/08 06:30 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: Hikin_Jim]
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I use my Nalgenes daily and the only thing that has ever destroyed one is my dog. She eats the caps when she can get a hold of one. I've bought more replacement caps than I care to think about. One of the bottles has bite marks in it, but still works fine.
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#126169 - 03/03/08 06:41 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
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Nalgene bottles are the gold standard. However, I have never had a problem with my GSI products either. You really can't go wrong. I agree Nalgene and GSI products are both well made. I don't see a bad choice in either one of them.
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#126278 - 03/04/08 06:49 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: Hikin_Jim]
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One thing that is never mentioned in this nalgene/polycarbonate chemicals issue is that all the clear NSF listed food services containers are polycarbonate. So if you're really worried about this, then don't eat out at any restaurant anywhere. Nevermind the fact that a weekend with room temp water in a nalgene is far less likely to have anything leach into it versus a bin that sits in a salsa bar with acidic salsa or lemons or limes in it which then get put through the high temp industrial washer.
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#126280 - 03/04/08 07:06 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
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#126284 - 03/04/08 07:43 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: Hikin_Jim]
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I have a lighter weight 1 liter polycarbonate bottle from enviro products. I use it for water while working out. Can't say how many times it's taken a fall onto concrete with little damage other than scratches. Nalgene is standard though and because it fits my MSR mini-works filter it's the one in my kit. They're all pretty tough though.
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#126289 - 03/04/08 10:26 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: bsmith]
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thank you to all of you for your input - i appreciate it. it's a small issue - the nalgene vs gsi - but i like to gather as much info as possible before i make a purchase of anything - and i've found so much great info on so many different topics here.
it sounds like nalgene will be the bottle to buy. i saw the gsi bottles and thought perhaps i'd give the 'little guy' my business.
all other things being equal, the base of the nalgene is the same size as the rest of the bottle. the base of the gsi appears to be slightly smaller than the rest of the bottle - in my mind making it not quite as stable as the nalgene. a picky point, but i'd like to give my water bottle as much chance as possible to remain standing.
perhaps i'll get one of each.
thanks again to you all.
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#126290 - 03/04/08 10:50 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
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One thing you might want to consider is bottle weight. IIRC the weights of various 1liter bottles/containers empty are: Guyot designs steel 1liter ~13 ozs, nalgene std wide mouth Klean Kanteen steel 40oz ~11 ozs, weird semi-wide mouth Nalgene polycarbonate ~5 ozs, nalgene std wide Reused water bottle PETG ~2 ozs, small 28mm mouth Platypus water bag <2 ozs, small 28mm mouth That's with no water, 1 liter weighs 1 kg or about 2.2 pounds, so some of these bottles are a significant fraction of the water weight. The nalgenes are pretty bombproof and the stainless ones you can boil water safely in, so you could do without a pot. Now for day-to-day use i carry a reused water bottle with a spare platypus. For camping, i frequently also take a nalgene, they are bulletproof and are good for mixing gatorade. An advantage to using narrow mouth bottles is that they couple to this thing: http://www.aquamira.com/preparedness/frontier-pro-filter-system/which allows filtering straight from the bottle, or by gravity, so you don't have to carry around a heavy pump and work it streamside.
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#126291 - 03/04/08 11:25 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: aardvark]
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that's what i like about this forum - another good point raised.
rei sez the nalgene polycarb @ 32 oz / 1 litre weighs 6.2 oz. empty.
nalgene sez the same bottle weighs .33 lbs or 5.28 oz.
the gsi @ 1 litre weighs 7.2 oz. empty.
so 5.28 vs. 7.2..
it does make a difference. thank you for that.
for me, where i typically day hike, i carry 2, 3-litre camelback hydration bladders. yesterday i went through 1 3/4 bags in an 8 hour hike. temps were in the low 70s. and the hike was 95% sun exposed. but we did see water where typically isn't any.
the intent was to try to reduce the water carry - using nalgene/gsi or ??? - to capture the water, steripen (fast, minimal weight) to sterilize, hydration bag to carry the sterilized water. don't mind 6 lbs of water but 12 gets heavy! and some places we go have year-round, even in drought, water.
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#126557 - 03/06/08 11:32 PM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
[Re: bsmith]
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1 liter mountain dew bottles with the wide mouth. Cheap and REALLY indestructable.
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#126572 - 03/07/08 01:10 AM
Re: GSI vs Nalgene bottle?
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and not polycarbonate.
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