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#120637 - 01/18/08 01:45 AM Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008
MartinFocazio Offline

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Registered: 01/21/03
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UPDATE: January 2008

It's time to make sure that it's perfectly clear that you should have no expectation of total anonymity in this forum. While your "handle" may be virtually anything you want, you should know that not only are your visits logged, but using basic digital forensic tools and methods, your actual identity is typically readily available to moderators.

Such was the case with a recent poster who was asked to "back off" as I revealed to them not only their true identity, including a recent photograph of them, which took only a minor effort to discern, but also that they had been using computers at their work place, a government facility, to post abusive messages to this forum. I also found and shared with them some other personal information about them I located online that I'm sure that they would rather I had not dug up

I don't mean to threaten or bully anyone, I want you to understand that digital is the opposite of private. So, once again:


If you would not say what you write here in front of your family, your kids, your co-workers, perhaps you need to pause and ponder what you write.

Thanks again. Happy new year.

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#120640 - 01/18/08 01:55 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
OldBaldGuy Offline
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Registered: 09/30/01
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Well said. Scary, but well said...
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#120651 - 01/18/08 03:53 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
Blitz Offline
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Registered: 08/23/07
Posts: 535
Loc: MA
I don't suppose that their handle included the letters B S? (Something to do with shotgun ammo) Just curious, not trying to be a wise guy.

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#120653 - 01/18/08 04:05 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
ironraven Offline
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Posts: 4642
Loc: Vermont
Martin, you are one of the few people I know who actually scares me. smile Glad you're one of the good guys.
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#120657 - 01/18/08 05:07 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: OldBaldGuy]
leemann Offline
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Agreed and well said.
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#120661 - 01/18/08 11:20 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: leemann]
Erik_B Offline
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Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 315
Loc: Somewhere in my own little wor...
aaaaaaaahh!! HACKERS! RUN AWAYYY!!
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Originally Posted By: ironraven
...Shopping appeals to the soul of the hunter-gatherer.

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#120662 - 01/18/08 11:23 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
Stretch Offline
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Registered: 11/27/06
Posts: 707
Loc: Alamogordo, NM
Martin, you done good. It beats gigging him for spelling errors......

((( laugh )))
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#120673 - 01/18/08 02:52 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
DesertFox Offline
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Registered: 01/04/07
Posts: 339
Loc: New York, NY
Wondered how long he was going to last. Good hunting Martin. Ahh, a civil forum again.

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#120674 - 01/18/08 03:11 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
Blast Offline
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Registered: 07/15/02
Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
Martin,

Thank you for your quick and stunning action. When I grow up I want to be a superhero just like you!

I almost feel sorry for the target, though I would have loved to seen his face when he got your e-mail or PM!

-Blast

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#120677 - 01/18/08 04:13 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
SwampDonkey Offline
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Registered: 07/08/07
Posts: 1268
Loc: Northeastern Ontario, Canada
Good Job Martin!

I find this forum very educational, interesting and enjoyable, a little internet policing goes a long way to keeping it that way.

Thanks,

MIKE

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#120681 - 01/18/08 04:38 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: SwampDonkey]
KenK Offline
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Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2210
Loc: NE Wisconsin
I have no doubt that if we were all camping together somewhere in the mountains that we would all get along VERY well.

I'll take this opportunity to thank all of you for sharing your opinions and wealth of knowledge & experience in an amazingly civil and polite forum.

Ken K.

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#120690 - 01/18/08 05:34 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
JCWohlschlag Offline
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Registered: 11/26/06
Posts: 724
Loc: Sterling, Virginia, United Sta...
Oh, heck yeah! I have been wondering how long it would take for you guys to ban the guy and remove his posts, and here you come with a solution like that. Props to you, man! grin
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#120754 - 01/19/08 01:49 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: ]
NAro Offline
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I nominate Martin for the Chuck Norris award! Thanks for your hard work, Martin.

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#120760 - 01/19/08 02:41 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: NAro]
Blast Offline
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Registered: 07/15/02
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Loc: TX
I second that!

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#120966 - 01/21/08 06:45 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
CJK Offline
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Registered: 08/14/05
Posts: 601
Loc: FL, USA
I didn't read through all the replies but for what it is worth...I am very glad you did that stuff. I don't see that as bullying anyone....I am very proud to say I frequent the ETS forums.....and I tell everyone to watch themselves if they decide to join because this is a very family friendly site. I've spoken to people who use other forums and they said they wished those moderators would do things like lock threads since some of those postings (and the posters) get out of hand. I am very happy with and want to thank you MF and CC for the fine work.....

As an aside.....I wished I could've been a fly on the wall for the postings you sent them.........I'd have loved to have seen the look on their face.

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#120969 - 01/21/08 06:59 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: CJK]
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THANKS!! I am safe again!!!! Ohh, wait if i thought I was safe, why would i be on this forum??
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#120973 - 01/21/08 07:41 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: climberslacker]
Stu Offline
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Registered: 05/16/05
Posts: 1058
Loc: Finger Lakes of NY State
Thanks Martin! Good Gob! grin
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#120978 - 01/21/08 08:19 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: Stu]
MDinana Offline
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Registered: 03/08/07
Posts: 2208
Loc: Beer&Cheese country
geez, why is it that everone seems to know who this person was? did everyone but me complain, or am I just dense? Maybe I just don't get offended by someone's online sputterings?

Someone pm me and let me in on the gossip smile

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#120990 - 01/21/08 09:33 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: ]
Blast Offline
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Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
Quote:
Wow, he's the guy who had the problem with ironraven for no obvious reason.


Hey, don't forget he also made fun of my googles! grin

-Blast
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#120996 - 01/21/08 10:34 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: Blast]
KenK Offline
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Registered: 06/26/04
Posts: 2210
Loc: NE Wisconsin
Originally Posted By: Blast
Hey, don't forget he also made fun of my googles! grin


Well ... that I can understand sick

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#121004 - 01/22/08 12:19 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: KenK]
Blast Offline
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Posts: 3760
Loc: TX
Quote:
Hey, don't forget he also made fun of my googles!


Well ... that I can understand


Well, my mom thinks they are cool.

Hmmm, that's not actually a good thing... blush

-Blast
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#121008 - 01/22/08 01:12 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: KenK]
bsmith Offline
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Loc: ventura county, ca

Originally Posted By: KenK
Originally Posted By: Blast
Hey, don't forget he also made fun of my googles! grin


Well ... that I can understand sick



ok, i give up. i'll be the one to ask. what are they for?


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#121014 - 01/22/08 02:13 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: bsmith]
Blast Offline
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Quote:
k, i give up. i'll be the one to ask. what are they for?


Duh, eye protection! grin

-Blast
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#121024 - 01/22/08 03:03 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: Blast]
Andy Offline
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Registered: 09/13/07
Posts: 378
Loc: SE PA
Originally Posted By: Blast
Quote:
Wow, he's the guy who had the problem with ironraven for no obvious reason.


Hey, don't forget he also made fun of my googles! grin

-Blast


He made fun of your internet search engines? (lol)

Oh, goggles! he he he...

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#121029 - 01/22/08 03:47 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: Andy]
Blast Offline
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Quote:
Oh, goggles! he he he...


blush blush blush

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#121041 - 01/22/08 05:30 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MartinFocazio]
leemann Offline
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Thanks good job!.

Lee
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They'll do anything to get what they need.
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#121176 - 01/23/08 09:24 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MDinana]
wildman800 Offline
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Registered: 11/09/06
Posts: 2851
Loc: La-USA
Don't feel bad,,,,I have no clue what transpired either!!!!!
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#121239 - 01/23/08 09:12 PM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: wildman800]
MoBOB Offline
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Registered: 09/17/07
Posts: 1219
Loc: here
I also am clueless yet grateful. Thanks Martin.
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#121283 - 01/24/08 03:22 AM Re: Updated forum courtesies & enforcement...2008 [Re: MoBOB]
Art_in_FL Offline
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Registered: 09/01/07
Posts: 2432
Every forum needs a sheriff or some other mechanism to limit damage and to encourage engagement.

The general rule of conduct has to be that everyone needs to separate the speaker from the speech. Nothing wrong with contesting facts as long as it is done in a civil tone and in pursuit of more complete knowledge and better understanding.

Personalities. Long before an abusive poster clearly and obviously violates the rules it is often clear they are malicious. If they are not removed, reformed or otherwise checked they drive away exactly the sorts of people a forum wants to hear from. People who are driven off or deterred from posting because they wish to avoid the undeserved abuse that might be leveled at them if they post.

If it isn't done you end up with petty tyrants who homestead the forum and make it their their private balcony for regular rants and leveling of abuse toward anyone who fails to agree with them or show sufficient deference. Or punks who get their jollies traumatizing people and vandalizing a community. Sometimes a bit of both.

Someone has to actively maintain a safe middle ground where people are free, even encouraged, to post and state what they feel in a civil manner without fear of abuse.

I'm glad this forum has one. Good job.

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